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FAQs on Genus Acanthurus Tang Identification
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Related FAQs: Acanthurus Tangs 1, Acanthurus
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Acanthurus Systems, Acanthurus
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Acanthurus Reproduction, Powder Blue
Tangs, A. sohal, A. nigricans & A. japonicus,
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Unknown Tang – 11/10/09
Hello,
<Hello, Lynn here this evening.>
We are a small aquarium store, and recently one of our customers gave us
one their Tangs they've had in their tank for several years. It was
getting quite large and he needed a bigger tank.
<Heeeee! If only we had a dime for every time that’s happened!>
When he bought it originally, the store and himself, wasn't sure what
kind of tang it was. We've done our own research and we cannot find a
good match either. We were wondering if you can look into it and
hopefully find the answer. He is about 9 inches,
<Yikes!>
..and has a few scratches from trying to catch him in the tank.
<That had to have been difficult for everyone involved! As for the ID,
the closest thing I can find is Acanthurus gahhm (aka the Monk Tang or
Black Surgeonfish), a fast-growing and potentially very large fish
indeed (reportedly 40-50cm/15.75–19.7”). Please see the following links
for comparison and more information:
http://fishbase.org/summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=17471
http://fishbase.org/Photos/PicturesSummary.php?ID=17471&what=species
Another possibility is a very similar, though ultimately smaller
species, Acanthurus nigricauda, (aka the Brown-Eared Surgeonfish)
http://www.fishbase.org/summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=4747
See Bob’s notes regarding both species, towards the bottom of this page:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/AcanthurusBad.htm >
Thanks in advance!
<You’re very welcome! Take care, LynnZ>
--
Eric Bergevin, Co-Owner
Fish Tail Aquariums
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Re: Tang Aggression, now ID
6/3/09
Hi, Mr Jenkins
Thanks for advice.
< Your welcome. >
Please do me a favor by identifying the fish in the attachment.
< I'll try !!>
Initially I had doubts that it might be a Monrovia tang but the lines on the
body are missing. Neither does it have the shape of the Scopas.
Regards Richard
< The markings on the fins makes me think sp. Acanthurus blochii. Can't say
100 % sure. Some closer shots of markings, interesting colorations , etc.
could help with identification. GA Jenkins >
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two pictures for Bob
5/15/09
Hey there Bob. Just me, the guy who drops off pictures from time to time.
<Hello Grant>
If you want a free and what I consider good picture of a dussumieri tang and
an achilles tang, feel free to use these. If not, just take a second to
enjoy them, they are really gorgeous fish ;) No color enhancing done through
Photoshop or any other means, I just adjust the exposure (both of these were
pretty blown out) and hit save.
If you want the details, the Achilles is about 3.5" and the dussumieri is
7". Both feed on a diet of Nori, mysis, NLS pellets and angel formula, all
soaked in garlic/Zoë/Selcon/vitamin C.
Hope you enjoy!
Grant
<Thank you for sharing. Bob Fenner>
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unknown fish
4/19/09
I know that WWM is not for answering for one,
<?>
but I am puzzled and would appreciate your help. I took some
pictures of a fish at my LFS that I eventually purchased as a
"Mystery Tang".. I have taken those pictures to numerous LFS and
e-mailed them to three online fish retailers but nobody can tell me
what kind of fish this one is. I took more pictures today to send to
you. Have you any idea what type of tang or (angel) this is? He (or
she) is a 1 1/2" long juvenile.
Anything you can tell me would be Greatly Appreciated.
Thank You,
Carl Pepper
Trevor WI
<Mmm, the pix are a bit too blurry, but this is a juvenile
Acanthurus species of some sort... maybe an A. blochii. Bob Fenner>
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Tang ID: Pale Lipped Tang 4/6/2009
Hi Crew!
<Hi Terri>
I’ve tried identifying this tang but alas, I cannot. I’ve included two
pictures for you to have a look at. I’ve looked at fishbase.org and at every
tang picture I can get my hands on. This tang was collected in Cairns,
Australia. He has a few war wounds courtesy of a cranky Sailfin Tang but is
on the mend. Any ideas greatly appreciated!
< I got your second email as well, yes, it is a Acanthurus leucocheilus -
The Pale Lipped Tang. With a Sailfin and an Pale Lipped Tang, I hope you
have a very large tank - 200+ gallons>
<You can read more here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/badacanthurusaq.htm >
Terri
<Mike>
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Tang ID 3-31-2009
Good evening crew,
<Hello! Merritt here today!>
I was wondering if you could tell me what type of Acanthurus you think
this? I believe it is a blochii or possibly a dussumieri. Doubtful on
the last one though. It is 5 inches in length. I was also wondering how
long do you think it will be okay in my 90 gal. There is only about 60
pounds of rock in it so there is quite a bit of swimming room in there.
I know this fish gets quite large. In your opinion what size tank should
this fish be housed in? I would like to keep the fish but I can not set
up a larger tank right now. I do have a 125 gal. I could set up within a
few months if need be but do you think this fish would be okay for say
1- 1 1/2 yrs. in the 90gal?
<First, could you resend this email with the picture attached. That
would greatly help with the identification! :-) >
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nick
<Merritt A.>
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Re: Tang ID.
4/1/2009
sorry bout that! here's those pics.
<Almost certainly an A. dussumieri. Could live in an uncrowded 90 for this
time frame... being fed sparingly. Ultimately needs at least twice this
volume. Bob Fenner>
Tang ID Part II 4-14-09
Thank you for the ID. and I can also agree with that. But for the
main question from my original e-mail, how long do you think I could
keep this fish in my tank? As stated prior, it is a 90gal. standard
rectangle with about 60-70 lbs. of live rock and just 2 small
damsels and an orchid Dottyback. Everything seems fine for now but I
know this fish gets big. I would like to keep it but I would not be
able to put this fish in a larger than a 125 gal. tank for about 1-2
years. The earliest I can put the fish in my 125 gal. would be 3
months. I could stand to turn a profit on this fish since I only
paid $40 on it because I was the only one who know what it probably
was. What should I do for the best benefit for the fish?
Thanks again for you time.
Nick
<Hello Nick and sorry about the wait. To answer your first question
these tangs, the A. dussumieri can get up to 14 inches some even 20
inches! You might be able to keep him in the 125 gallon for 1-2
years depending on his growth rate and current size but, I would
advise passing this fish along to someone with a larger tank. These
guys need space (hundreds of gallons) and I don't think 125 gallons
is enough. Merritt A.>
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Acanthurus ID (Attn: Bob) – 02/19/09 Hey Bob! <Brian>
It's been a while since we have spoken, hope all is well. <Yes my
friend, thank you> My turn to ask a question. My first guess of
ID of the fish in the attached picture was A. dussumieri but now I'
thinking maybe A. fowleri. <It is a Fowler's...> Maybe it's
neither, but an ID would much appreciated. Give me a call when you
get a chance 908-226-1100 and let's shoot the "Fish". Working at
Ocean Gallery and maintaining the website has been a full time job,
but I do login every so often and answer a question or two when I
get a chance. Brian K. Griffin Ocean Gallery II
http://www.oceangalleryii.com <I saw a bunch of these (had no
pix, never had seen up to the point) at Sea Dwelling Creatures, up
visiting a few weeks ago. Cheers, BobF> |
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Acanthurus spp., ID – 09/24/08 Hi, <Hello Chloe.> I am
a student at the University of Hawaii at Manoa and am currently enrolled
in the Marine Option Program. Part of what I am learning is the Latin
names of various critters that live in Hawaiian waters. One of the fish
we must learn is Acanthurus blochii, but when I saw it I immediately
thought of Acanthurus mata. Though I have never physically seen either
of them and certainly have never been able to compare the two next to
each other, they look extremely similar if not the same. Even the
pictures on your website show their similarity. Are they the same or is
there a significant difference? <These two are sometimes confused
with each other (following Randall, this happened often). Their
coloration is indeed similar, but not identical. An easy character for
differentiation may be the white band at the caudal peduncle of
Acanthurus blochii, which the vast majority of this species has.
Therefore it is sometimes called by the common name Ringtail tang. While
A. mata has a yellow band across the eye (as a double band in front of
the eye), it’s rather a yellow spot behind the eye at A. blochii. Also
check fishbase.org for further pictures. What also would be quite useful
for you is Randall’s new book on Hawaiian reef fishes, which you most
likely will find in your university’s library.> Thanks, Chloe.
<Cheers, Marco.>
Mystery Tang 6/3/08 Hi guys <Michael> I bought this
tang yesterday (see attachments for pics). He was labeled as a
"Bristletooth" tang. However, I definitely think he is an
Acanthurus species. I have not be able to find an ID on this guy
anywhere. All I know is that the importer who brought him got just
got a shipment from Hawaii, so this could be his likely origin.
<Maybe... almost looks like a Acanthurus thompsoni in some of your
pix... but the ones with a white caudal are a bit different and from
elsewhere. My guess is that this is a juvenile A. dussumieri See
here: http://wetwebmedia.com/tangshi.htm and here:
http://fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.php?ID=1256> Can you
please help? Cheers Michael <And you. Bob Fenner>
Re: Mystery Tang 6/3/08 Hi Bob <Michael> Thanks
for that. I spoke to the importer and this fish came from his
Hawaiian supplier <My old survey piece on Acanthurids of HI was
linked last msg.> I do not think he is an Acanthurus thompsoni
for a couple of reasons: Hawaiian variants not having a white
caudal <Which I stated...> Many specimens I have seen on the
web are either dark, or light blue, whereas, this guy is light grey,
or white, or dark grey/brown depending what mood he is in His
fin colouration. His dorsal fin seems to be grey, with gold running
along the top (visible in some of my attached pics). Also, a third
of his pectoral fins seem to be yellow, with the base of the
pectoral fins being a very (I emphasize very) pale blue (almost
white) <Agreed> Out of your two suggestions, I would lean to
Acanthurus dussumieri - mainly because of the colouration. However,
from juvenile pics I have seen, there seems to one difference. Just
behind each of his eyes there is a small dark grey patch (the patch
being in similar position to that of an adult orange shoulder tang,
only smaller in proportion and dark grey). <Mmm, might even be a
hybrid...> I am going to keep looking into him as it would be
interesting to see what species he/she turns out to be. Cheers
Michael <Please do send along pix of the further developed
specimen, input re as time goes by. Cheers, BobF>
Re: Mystery Tang - 6/3/08
Hi Bob <Michael> Thanks for your help. I will do as you
suggested and take pics over time as it sure will be interesting to
see how he/she turns out. If it is a hybrid, it would be pretty
awesome as I only paid $76NZD for him/her. <Mmm... at .784 to the
U.S....> However, there does seem to be a great possibility that
he/she turns out to be just another variation of A. Dussumieri or
another species. Will keep you informed. Cheers Michael
<Thank you my friend of "the long white cloud"... will think of you
later while working the weeds about my Avocado trees here in S.
Cal., as I know NZ grows many Hass as well. Cheers! Bob Fenner>
Re: Mystery Tang - 6/3/08
Fair enough. Trust me, $76NZD is cheep for any tang here. And
we don't just grow avocados here either! ;) Although they are
pretty good Cheers Michael <The place is supposedly a
wonderland of agriculture and sheep raising... Have only been to
Rotorua... with the HHH... thus too blinded by alcohol to remember
much... but can't get the Sulfur smell out of me clothes! Cheers,
BobF> |

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Tang ID question…A Hybrid Maybe? –05/13/08
I have been
trying to identify the attached to no avail, and am beginning to think
it might be a hybrid. <<I think you may be right>> It was called a
Charcoal Tang in the store, which only produces epicurean results on
Google ;). <<Mmm, yes…and likely a label placed (made up) at the
holding facility>> It has elements of Japonicus but I am unsure.
Sorry for the furniture reflection.
http://i31.tinypic.com/2webcwi.jpg <<Well John…it certainly looks
“Acanthuridae” in appearance; and I can’t find anything like it in my
reference material. The markings and colors suggest to me a mix of A.
leucosternon (Powder Blue Tang) and possibly A. pyroferus (Chocolate
Tang). This fish also looks to be a juvy…so the color/markings will
likely change a bit yet and may provide more clues at a later stage>>
Thanks in advance! John <<Sorry I couldn’t give you a more
definitive answer. EricR>> |
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Re: Tang ID question…A Hybrid Maybe? – 05/21/08 Hi Eric, Bob
and Crew, <<Hey John…Eric here>> I appreciated your help on this
ID. <<Was it of use?>>
http://i31.tinypic.com/2webcwi.jpg"http://i31.tinypic.com/2webcwi.jpg
http://s3.tinypic.com/2u9od44.jpg"http://s3.tinypic.com/2u9od44.jpg
Someone on Reef Central suggested this is a pale lipped surgeon and
attached the following photo.
http://www.abrisousroche.com/EauMer/Animaux/Fiches/Chirurgiens/Acanthurus-leucocheilus.jpg
<<Hmm, perhaps…as it does look similar to yours…but then, neither look
anything like that shown for Acanthurus leucocheilus on fishbase.org>>
Now I am even more concerned as this is a no-no for a 75 gallon, even
more than the powder blue/chocolate hybrid you suggested. <<If what
you have is indeed A. leucocheilus, then yes…as this fish reaches 20” in
the wild>> I will probably ask my LFS to consider an exchange for a
more tank appropriate fish. Do you agree that this is a pale lipped?
<<Unless yours is in a juvenile color phase, based on what I see on
fishbase.org…no, I do not agree. The fact that someone has a “similar”
specimen does not necessarily indicate a species specific find, as it
too may be a hybrid>> The tail is blue instead of yellow, but mine
may be younger. <<Maybe so>> Looking at all the photos on Bob’s
article The Tangs, Surgeons, Doctorfishes, of the Genus Acanthurus, on
Wetweb, I identified many fish it “could” be, including bahianus,
dussumieri or a Hawaiian thompsoni which is frustrating. <<Indeed…and
none of them close enough to be of a certainty>> Anyway, thanks
again. <<I do wish Bob were back so he too could comment/voice an
opinion re your mystery Acanthurus sp. tang. Regards, Eric Russell>> |
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R2: Tang ID question…A Hybrid Maybe? ~ 01/01/09 Hola Crew!
<<Hiya John!>> Last year I wrote to you about the below referenced
Tang and wanted to update you. <<Excellent, thank you>> While I
have not attached a new picture, the tang in my tank
http://s3.tinypic.com/2u9od44.jpg has become increasingly like the tang
pictured in the
http://www.abrisousroche.com/EauMer/Animaux/Fiches/Chirurgiens/Acanthurus-leucocheilus.jpg
in that his tail is increasingly blue, and his bib and lip and peduncle
are increasingly white. <<Okay>> However he remains much lighter
colored than the leucocheilus in the fishbase.org photos and video.
<<Perhaps a regional color difference… Or simply an anomaly>> Is
there natural color variation in this species, or do they darken with
age? <<I honestly don’t really know. But I would suspect that if this
is A. leucocheilus that the latter would be the case>> I am seeing
more photos of this tang on the web, many with taxonomy questions. Seems
like mine is not the only one, but classification remains unclear.
<<Perhaps more time will tell>> Happy New Year John, aka Fishnu
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Achilles tang hybrid 4/19/08 I saw an interesting tang at
the LFS today. The fish was sent from the wholesaler as an Achilles and
the markings are generally in the usual distribution for an achilles,
but the colors are off. There is the usual orange coloration across the
tail as well as the tear-drop marking in front of the tail. The body is
a muted blue-gray to brown color rather than black, and there is a
distinct white "bib" like marking across the chest, reminiscent of a
powder blue tang. If I had to guess based just on looks I'd favor a
powder blue/achilles hybrid but that doesn't make sense geographically.
My next thought would be a Dussumieri. I only see references to Achilles
x goldrim hybrids so I thought I would see if you had seen any other
crosses. I'll try to get a photo if you think that would help.
Thanks, Jeff <Have seen a few crosses twixt A. achilles and the
Gold-Rim (or Cat Tang in HI), A. nigricans (nee glaucopareius). Do send
along a pic if you can. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Tang taxonomy, naming 03/04/2008 Dear WWM crew, Thanks
for your extremely informative and helpful site. I recently added a tang
that has been called a lavender tang, it was sold from LFS as a palani
tang. From the picture on the WWM section dealing with tangs, it is
listed as Acanthurus nigrofuscus. <Yes... this is likely the most
commonly applied name for the Lavender... the Palani is most often
Acanthurus dussumieri> Another site has the same fish listed as
Ctenochaetus Nigrofuscus. <Mmm, there is no such fish... I think
they've got the genus wrong here... the only species name applied to
Acanthurid/oids for nigrofuscus is Acanthurus...> Can you please help
to clarify which is the correct listing? I'm asking because it is
behaving very much like a member of the Ctenochaetus family. <Mmm,
not a family, but a genus...> It is actively feeding on a lush growth
of algae in my 40 gal. holding tank that contains live rock and cleaner
shrimp. I prefer to use this method to quarantine my fish instead of
using copper. Thank you for all the past and present help. Matty
T Cleveland OH <The Lavender is one of my fave Tangs... is very
common in the wild where it's found, stays small, is relatively
peaceful, and an ardent algal picker... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/tangs,.htm and the linked files where you
find, lead yourself. Bob Fenner> Acanthurus
pyroferus... sel..., mimic tangs period 2/16/07
I need some smarts. <Hey, get in line behind me!> I've
seen/heard various conflicting reports regarding the commonly referred
to "mimic tang." <Mmm... well...> Quite simply, I've heard of
three species, Acanthurus pyroferus, Acanthurus chronixis, and
Acanthurus tristis. <There are these three... perhaps some
others...> As juveniles, they all have quite their specific looks,
but I very much enjoy the look of the A. pyroferus as an adult. I
think it's understood that the yellow mimic juveniles are indeed the A.
pyroferus, but the question; how can you determine if an eibli or half
black juvenile is the aforementioned A. pyroferus instead of the other
options such as A. chronixis or A. tristis (your website implies the A.
pyroferus can mimic many different Centropyge sp.)? <This is so...
and for the purposes here... really only practical to have you check
numerous images for comparison twixt the Surgeons and Dwarf Angels...
they are distinctive seen side by side I assure you... Perhaps
fishbase.org, Scott Michael's Reef Fish series...> I'd hate to
find out months or years later as to what my selection turns into, and
I'd like something a little more unusual than the common yellow mimic
juvenile. <Oh... and to further toss in a monkey wrench, these
fishes are capable of changing quite a bit... tend to "drift" from
seeming pre-disposed coloring, marking in captive circumstances... Less
so in larger volumes, in the presence of "biotopic" (naturally
co-occurring) species. Bob Fenner> Thanks! Chris
Tang ID. Picture attached of Tang in question. Was sold to me
as a Lipstick tang "Naso lituratus", I'm thinking that I may be
fortunate that it is more to the name of a A. japonicus, but it
doesn't have the white "cheek" marking as described, The rest of the
coloring doesn't look like it would be the a. nigricans either.
Attached is a couple pics of it, since its color does vary a bit in
the body. Mainly, seems when it gets startled, also, aprox. 3.5-4".
<You are correct... this is not a Naso sp. tang. IT IS either A.
japonicus or A. nigricans. Both of these fish are commonly referred
to as "powder brown" or "gold rim" tangs. See here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/GoldRimSs.htm A. Japonicus is the
far better aquarium fish, and I suspect that is what you have. To
verify, look also for the characteristic yellow tail bar of A.
nigricans. Hybrids are thought to occur between these fish and A.
Leucosternon (powder blue), and it is possible that this is one of
those or just an unusual morph. These fish often display unnatural
looking colors under stress, so a positive ID may only be possible
if the fish reaches peak health.> Please disregard the algae
spots, that at least seems to be going away, as last week it was
pretty much sheet, instead of spots. Midnight sleeper goby and Red
Sailfin Blenny seem to have been working overtime. Additional
tankmates: firefish goby, pair of cleaner shrimp, yellow tail
damsel, and false percula clown. Temp 76, Salinity 1.023, ph 8.3,
alk 325, ammonia 0,nitrite 0, nitrate 20 and falling, was 40 a week
ago. Would be appreciated if you could id this tang for me. Hoping
it is more suited for the 48"L tank, it is eating anything from
Frozen Brine, Zooplankton, Marine flakes, and devours seaweed
salad. <Your tank mates sound fine, and this tang should help
clear up any algae problems. Any 48" tank will be too small for this
fish. It may do OK for a few months, but it will soon out grow it.
These fish appreciate strong water movement (at least 15x tank
volume) for both high oxygen saturation and the swimming
stimulation. I am not sure about the ppm scale for alkalinity, so
please consult your kit instructions and maintain it in the high end
of the normal range. Also, I would avoid significant amounts of
brine in any fishes diet. Ocean nutrition frozen "pygmy angel
formula" is one of my favorite tang foods for it's high marine algae
content. Lastly... I hope that this fish was quarantined. All tangs
are high Ick risks and often take tankmates with them when they
cause an outbreak. Best Regards. AdamC.><<Is japonicus. RMF>> |  
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Acanthurus bahianus and chirurgus I recently found two
un-identified tangs at my local supplier. As shown on your page, I have
identified them as juvenile Acanthurus Bahianus & Acanthurus Chirurgus.
<I concur... these species are what are pictured> They eat like
horses and are well behaved, their color changes at the drop of a hat.
They are presently in a 66 gallon reef with a Kole and a Powder Blue. I
could of never imagined how colorful they became after settling in. It
was an experiment and I'm curious to see just how well they will
continue to adapt as they mature. <Many organisms are overlooked...
due to being so "local"> Your initial comment about them on your site
was right on the money for the Bahianus, the Chirurgus so far is about
the same yet was quite timid at first. Now the Chirurgus has asserted
himself and won't take any guff from anyone. <Good... now about the
size of their system... needs to be much larger> The main reason I
bought them was the fact I had never seen them offered over the years in
any supplier and that you quoted the Chirurgus as "rarely offered in the
trade". <Ha! And very abundant in... Florida, and points east and
southward...> Worth noting is that the Chirurgus & Bahianus are
quoted by many sources as being found together in mixed schools in the
wild. <Not that common, but not rare> They stick together like
glue much to the dislike of the Bahianus, yet even more amusing is the
affinity that the Chirurgus has for my adult Powder Blue Tang. This
Chirurgus has an extremely strong schooling instinct, it may be due
partly to his small size and immaturity. All in all a good experience
so far, find attached pics of the juvenile Chirurgus & Bahianus. As they
grow maybe it'll convince the better half that we really do need that
180 gallon that I'm always talking about! <Yes! Bob Fenner> Van
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Fish ID Help - 2/17/03 Hi Anthony, Here are some pictures.
Thanks. Ron <Ron... thanks for the images, but they are neither clear
nor close enough to be certain. Yet they do resemble Acanthurus blochii
very much. I don't think we can be of any further help to you on the ID.
I forget how big this aquarium was too? Any of the Acanthurus that this
turns out to be exceed 40 cm at maturity (16"!) and I fear you may not
have a tank long enough to grow it to adulthood. More importantly, its
apparent that this fish has suffered from the rigors of import and is
remarkably emaciated. You need to fatten it up ASAP to save it. Focus
on high protein greens like Spirulina tablets... as well as Mysis shrimp
and even some freeze dried foods if it will taken them (we're looking
for 20% protein or better... much better actually). I also saw some
hermits one of the pictures that look like temperate species from the
gulf (janitor types). Do ID them if you are not sure they are tropicals.
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Fish identification please Can you identify this fish? I think
its a Tang, but what kind is it? <This is an Acanthurus pyroferus,
one of the mimic tangs. Please see here re:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acanthurTngs.htm Bob Fenner> | 
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HAWAIIAN CONVICT TANG BOB, YOU LINK
http://wetwebfotos.com/Home?actionRequest=articleView&articleID=10
http://wetwebfotos.com/Home?actionRequest=organismView&organismID=108
this link has a Hawaiian Convict tang (sub species) in the top
picture. Hint: the Hawaiian has the second bar extending past
the pectoral fin all the way to the bottom of the belly. The
number of bones/rays in the fins is also different than the
non-Hawaiian. I must spend too much time reading Jack Randall's
books. ABOUT Hawaiian tangs has a picture of the NON-Hawaiian
convict tang. Do you know how to tell the difference? ALOHA
John Dawe <Evidently not... though have seen, photographed "Maninis"
in a bunch of countries, places... That Dr. R... just two nights back
was stymied at a SDMAS meeting by someone asking what species of
bristlemouth tang they had... I said, "likely a Ctenochaetus
striatus"... but Dr. Jack has expanded the number of species recently
(groan). Be chatting. Bob Fenner> Tang ID Hi there!!
Thank you so much for the opportunity to get your feedback!!! This is a
great feature! I have two different questions: 1) I purchased a
fish and was told that it was a Pacific Blue Tang. However, according to
pictures I've found while researching, he is NOT a pacific blue at all!
How can I possibly find out what he is? Is there an online guide that
YOU know of (with pictures) that might possibly help me track down
exactly what kind of fish this is? I'm at a complete loss! Just in
case you can place him: He is a mottled blue and yellow -- very fine
striping on his sides, and not as linear tiger striping on his face
(alternating a pale yellow and deep blue). Yellow fins. Yellow 2) I
just purchased a 55-gallon corner tank for my home, and am a little
intimidated by the filtration for this tank (I have a 30 gallon and 10
gallon salt). Can you please recommend some of the hardware I should buy
to keep this new tank healthy? THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! Best
Regards, Margaret Pennell >> For the first query, do have a
technical site that is a fabulous tool:
http://www.cgiar.org/iclarm/fishbase/ Do your initial search of all
the Surgeonfishes under their common name or family: Acanthuridae... and
click away at the pictures associated with the species... But, I'm also
attaching an image of what is very likely a juvenile stage Atlantic Blue
Tang, Acanthurus coeruleus... which is probably what you do have....
It will grow, change color to look more like the typical images of the
adults. The second.. what sort of gear for the 55 corner tank? Hmm,
lighting, filtration/circulation... including a skimmer...? Sorry, I
don't know if I follow what you're looking for. The set-up will probably
incorporate the same sorts of elements of your smaller systems. Bob
Fenner Question On A blue tang Hey there, I enjoy
reading your Q & A on the Flying Fish Express web site. You've help me
several times before. I had a blue jaw Goby the had a hole in his side.
The medicated food didn't help. But I finally caught him last week. I
treated him with Karcyn <probably Kanamycin>( mis spelled) and the
hole has stopped growing and the White area has diapered. Thanks for the
Advice. My New Question: I recently bought a blue Tang (yellow tailed
with blue maze like pattern) The fish is still a juvenile. He was fine
for the first week in Quarantine and now has black patches near his
belly. Also had a clear white growth near his eye but has fallen off.
The tang eats constantly. I feed him brine shrimp, macro algae and
veggie gum drops. He does swim around a lot. He is in the same tank as
the Gobies. He also received the same medication as the Gobies. Any
Suggestions what it maybe and the treatment if any? Thanks, Anthony
>> <Sounds like a nervous/environmental "disease" that will cure
itself with the animal adjusting to captive conditions... Not infectious
or parasitic. I would just place the fish in your main system... and do
start a "algae sheet" food offering regimen... strips of Nori you can
buy from pet fish or oriental food sources. Bob Fenner, who says, oh,
yeah, this is the same species (Paracanthurus hepatus), as you folks
from elsewhere call a Hippo or Palette Tang. Re: Question On A
blue tang Thanks for the help, The Tang is basically all blue
with yellow tail. Has the body shape of a Yellow Tang. He is just a
juvenile. Is he still a Paracanthurus hepatus? Thanks, Anthony >>
Hmm Yellow tailed, blue body with maze-like dark markings... could be a
Paracanthurus... or maybe just a juvenile Atlantic Blue, Acanthurus
coeruleus... take a look at this site:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/tangs,.htm And read down to the genus...
this species goes from a tiny all-yellow to blue with yellow tail... to
all azure blue... Is this it? Ah, good, Bob Fenner Re:
Question On A blue tang thanks, Its a Atlantic Blue Tang.
>> Ah, yes. Bob Fenner
Acanthurus pyroferus Hello
again! I am trying to discover if anyone has grown a Pyroferus to
maturity in a hobbyists' aquarium. Our friend in our reef is growing
bigger and into the Sub-Adult stage. He/She receives foods in many
varieties and has developed plenty of physical bulk. The caudal fin
shows the beginnings of the "feathers" carried by adults. The
orange/black coloration is prominent around the operculum and the pale
yellow lip on a dark background is visible. Is the normal development
experienced by reefkeepers? Regards >> Yes, if the animal is
kept long and well enough... Public aquariums are where I've mainly
seen/photographed such advanced development individuals... of a few
"normal" and mimic varieties. Bob Fenner Re: Pyroferus
Good Evening Bob!, Further to my earlier messages. My pyro has
developed in a different way to other histories I have read. The head
has almost adopted the adult form and the rest is still quite yellow.
However, the upper rear of the fish has shaded as the adult. It is still
subject to body colour changes, tied to emotions; especially when
feeding. The tail extensions are developing. I am looking at the new
range of Canon SLR autos to buy and photograph the progress of this
particular fish. I will also shoot the other fish which are not behaving
in the accepted manner. I feel very privileged to be an observer of
these changes. Regards Anthony Barden >> <"In the accepted
manner...?" Curious. Well, Canon does have about the fastest lenses in
their 35mm SLR's. I'd use Velvia (Fuji's super color rich 50 ISO slide
film).. Do this documentation, and know that such observations have been
remarked upon... seems like if some mimics don't have "things to copy"
they go a bit awry. Bob Fenner>
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