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How old are Bob Fenner's articles ? 10/2/2009
Hi,
My name is Kent and I live in Sweden. I just read the article
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimat.htm
and I am wondering about if it is still current article or too old to
use today...
<Is still current... of utility (accurate, significant, meaningful),
though penned in the mid-eighties. Bob Fenner, olde>
Best regards,
Kenta
Flame angel harem... acclim.
f' 6-15-2009
Hello there guys and gals of the Crew.
<Saludo Grant>
I'm going to attempt a harem of dwarf flame angels. On Wednesday, I'll
be receiving 5 of them, one (hopefully a male) in the 2.5" - 3.5" range
and the other 4 (hopefully all still female) are within 1.5" - 2.5"
range.
<Ahh!>
I have two questions. One, since they will be in different bags of
water, is there any way I can acclimate them all in the same container?
<Yes... they will be so disoriented from the travel that there should no
obvert aggression in this procedure>
I typically let a bagged fish sit in my QT for 15 minutes to equalize
temperature somewhat, then I dump the bag into a bucket and start a drip
going down into it. Then I take out about half the water in 15 minutes
(or whenever the initial water volume seems about doubled), let it drip
again for another doubling of the water volume, then I go ahead and
stick me hand in there, catch the fish and bring it up to the QT. By the
way, I've stopped using mesh nets on any angels or tangs, way too many
problems with either the caudal blade or the gill spine being caught.
<Mmm... Please see my combined articles on acclimation here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/acclimat.htm
If these animals are coming from some time away... more than 12 hours
let's say, you may want to measure pH, match this... see the pc. re>
Anyway... acclimating 5 flame angels this way I could probably do, but
the other factor is I'm also getting in 4 small convict tangs. These are
all going into my 210 gallon tank, I'm going to try a different type of
setup with not just a bunch of single, big fish, but instead smaller
fish that will interact with each other. I'm not going to be able to run
9 different buckets to acclimate. Do you think it's possible to take the
4 tangs, temperature acclimate them, then dump them all into the same
tote and drip acclimate the entire tote at once?
<Yes>
This will of course mix all their shipping water together at once,
<Again... pls read the articles... I would NOT mix the water IF there is
any measurable ammonia present... NOT at an initially high pH...>
but I'm hoping it is all similar enough in parameters that it wont be
hard on them. Same with the angels, drop all five into a tote and just
acclimate the entire tote. Is that doable?
<...>
The second question is more personal opinion, I think, but I'd like
yours :) I have this PVC matrix I made up of 3/4" PVC with lots of
elbows and three and 4 way splits. It looks like a jungle gym gone wild.
What it does though is break up line of sight throughout the QT really
well, plus I also have 3 pieces of large PVC sitting at the bottom that
they can swim through and maybe claim as a little territory. Having no
experience with anything more than a single flame angel, I'm HOPING this
works. Do you think it will be possible to maintain 5 dwarf flame angels
in a 29g QT, with one male and 4 females?
<Mmm... I would not likely do this... but instead dip/bath all and place
immediately in the main system. Such small Centropyges are too easily
lost in over-handling>
I have oversized filtration, basically a big emperor filter that is made
for a 55g tank so I'm not too worried about water quality, I'm just
worried that it might be too small of a volume for the angels. I don't
really have any more room for QT tanks, but if you think 5 small angels
will fight too much in a 29g, then I might put 2 tangs in each of my 29G
QTs and 2 flame angels in one and 3 in the other, with the group of
three containing the male. This wouldn't cut down on the bioload in each
tank but it would possibly cut down on aggression. Of course if I do
that, 2 of the 5 flame angels aren't going to be initially introduced
into the harem, so I might have problems when I combine them all in the
210 gallon display.
Your thoughts on this matter would be much appreciated! Thanks for all
you guys do, you've helped a lot in my journey through dumping all my
money into bright little bits of fishy flesh :)
Grant
<BobF>
Re: Flame angel harem, quar.
f' 6/17/09
Thanks for the reply, Bob. I have read through your acclimation articles
and they make sense.
<Ahh!>
Let me just verify for my sanity's sake that I understand...
<Sure>
You're recommending a FW dip, which I'm comfortable with doing, I've
done it in the past lots. I take a 5g bucket, fill it with 4 gallons of
tap water, treat it with the chlorine/chloramine/slime coat "stuff" and
put in a powerhead. I usually drop in about 3 tablespoons of baking soda
to make sure the pH is around 8.2.
<Do match the pH of the shipping water... VERY important... then slowly
raise this up to your quarantine or main tank pH... through dripping in
water.>
I throw in a heater normally near the end so it gets the water to about
75 degrees. Right before I add the fish, I add about 2 ml of formalin,
the 27% formaldehyde variety.
<Mmm, usually 37%... but do take care, add aeration, being eminently
present, observe the livestock during this exposure>
I then take the 5 bags of fish, float them in a tank to get the
temperature up in the bags, then I net out each fish separately and give
them a 2-10 minutes fresh water dip. Then just splash, into the display
tank they go? Does that sound correct?
<For "nearby" purchases, yes... for distal, please see, follow the
"Guerilla Acclimation Techniques" in the article/s referred to>
Also, I've heard tangs don't do good with freshwater dips, and I've
heard the same about dwarf angels as well. I'll be receiving both types,
so do you think my fears are unfounded? I don't want to kill a perfectly
good little fish by dipping it.
<Is a matter of guessing, judging about what will be, likely will be
worse/better... the transference of biological disease, or more stress
on the livestock>
I used to do freshwater dips and then I stopped when a harlequin tusk
died during it. Ever since then, I started to use quarantine tanks. If
I'm going right into my display, I would definitely like to do some type
of dip first though.
As always, your thoughts are appreciated.
Grant Gray
<Glad to share. BobF>
Multiple Order of Fish, New
additions, 5/1/09
Hello crew!
<Hi>
I just purchased a medium order of fish/inverts over the internet and
they should be arriving today.
<I would call this list a large order.>
The order consists of the following:
2 - ocell. clowns
1 - 3 stripe damsel
2 - yellow tail damsels
<Plan on lots of aggression with this group, hope this is a large tank.>
1 - cleaner shrimp
20 - turbo snails
2 - brittle starfish
5 - sandsifting snails
1 - pincushion urchin
My question is how can I acclimate all these at once?
<Lots of buckets.>
Or should I acclimate each different item in separate containers?
<This is how I would do it.>
Thanks!
<Welcome>
<Chris>
FW dipping and acclimation, reading - 02/08/09
Hi
guys. I am unable to reconcile Fenner's recommendation to FW dip with
the whole acclimation process (both described in his book CMA). I take a
fish home. OK. Why spend the time to acclimate to existing tank water
only to then dip in FW & Methylene blue?
<A temporary immersion
procedure... can be done in place of, alternative to acclimation
into/through quarantine. Is covered on WWM...>
I am in the planning
stage--no fish yet. The plan was to introduce to a QT for observation
prior to introducing to the main tank.
Thanks so much for any light
you could shed on this.
<Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/acclimat.htm
and the linked files above. Bob
Fenner>
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