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FAQs on Marine Alkalinity Measures
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Units please!
2.8 x meq/l = dKH,
KH can be converted to mmol/l of CaCO3 by dividing by 17,
German hardness (dKH) to parts per million (ppm), multiply by 17
1mg/L = 0.02meq/L,
Google ("Hardness conversion")
http://www.saltyzoo.com/SaltyCalcs/AlkConv.php |
Salifert KH Test Kits 7/1/08
I am hearing rumors about a bad batch of Salifert KH test kits. A friend has
one that reads off the charts every time, even in natural seawater purchased
from the store. It's brand new, and his DKH was 10 to 11 until he had to buy a
new kit.
Have you guys heard anything about this?
<Yes, there was apparently a bad run that was quickly recalled and remedied. A
few kits did make it to market (this was quite a few months back). This is a
good company with great test kits (still my choice), this sometimes happens to
the best of us. I suggest he/she take the kit back to where he purchased it
along with a water sample from his tank, let them compare the difference (and
hopefully refund).>
Thanks
Richard
<Welcome, Scott V.>
Re: Alkalinity Buffers
10/20/07
Hi James,
<Hello Scotty>
Thank you for the fast response.
<You're welcome.>
Along the same line of thought, I have read much on the topic of pH and
buffering, and it has been written that in addition to testing pH and
alkalinity, that one should also test acidity. My question is where do I find an
acidity test kit I have tried several online stores and have even Googled the
subject and cannot find an acidity test kit anywhere. All I can find is that
most companies refer to pH as a measure of acidity.
<pH is a measure of both acidity and alkalinity with pH 7.0 being neutral.
Readings under 7.0 are considered acidic and readings over 7.0 are alkaline.>
Confused,
<Not any more, but do read here. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marphalk.htm James
(Salty Dog)>
Scott
Alkalinity Testing Meters?
8/26/07
Hello, Crew.
<Bob>
Like many color blind aquarists, I have trouble reading the subtle color changes
(titration method) when doing water tests. Calcium and alkalinity being
especially difficult (I use Salifert test kits for both). I have researched and
discovered a number of water testing meters from Pinpoint, and even a phosphate
meter made by a company called Martini Instruments.
<Like that name>
Any experience or thoughts on these companies products (or others?)?
<I like the Hach, LaMotte (and co.s that re-label their products) simple/r
colorimeters, spectrophotometers and kits that go with them>
Also, I have not been able to uncover any equipment/meter capable of giving me
an alkalinity reading.
<They are about... see the above's websites...>
Are you aware of any? If not, any recommendations on a traditional test kit for
alkalinity that might have a more obvious reading/color change than the Salifert
kit?
Thanks for your thoughts!
Bob
<And take a read on WWM re this issue... the indices, search tool... Bob Fenner>
Check my math... 15 ml.s equals 1 tbsp., 1/2
fluid ounce... – 06/26/07
Hey guys,
<Wes>
Sorry I seem to be bugging you guys a lot lately, but I think most of my
questions haven't been repeats or stuff found through searches. I'm not going to
ask you for how to save my little Nemo from the white spots he's got...
<Heeee!>
I try to read a TON before asking anything. Anyway, I have a question regarding
alkalinity and the use of sodium bicarbonate. I understand that just using this
and Kalk would create an imbalance with extra Na, and that the two part solution
solves this by using CaCl for the Cl to balance the Na. Well, what happens if
there's too much Na in a tank?
<Hopefully gets diluted through time via water changes...>
Secondly, I'd like you to check my logic/reasoning here. I have a 30 gallon
system (aprox actual gallons after rock, etc), according to Reef keeping online
magazine, a mixed tank using recipe 2 requires about .6mL/gallon, so 15mL/daily.
15ml = about .75 cup or 6oz.
<Mmm, no... way off. Please see here:
http://www.exploratorium.edu/cooking/convert/measurements.html>
128 oz/gallon so suggested dose is .046gallons/day. The concentration suggested
is 1 and 1/8 cup of Baking Soda per gallon. This equals 54 teaspoons. So, am I
supposed to be dumping almost 2.5 teaspoons of baking soda into my tank daily?
<No>
That seems like a lot... Would there be considerable harm if I keep up regular
waterchanges and use baking soda and CaOH for a few months? I do 5-10% w/c every
few days. I will continue to check Ca and Alk levels to monitor for funkiness.
Sorry if that was long winded, but I don't want to be putting anyone in my tank
in danger, and I'd like to keep my alkalinity a bit higher and steady than I get
with just Kalk, w/c and the occasional buffer. Oh, and for the record, my Ca
stays around 420. Also, I am having a bit of my coralline die off, but I believe
that's because I went a little too long before switching out lights and it's not
used to it yet. Sound logical?
<Please have a read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corallinealg.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
I'm confused or it's a misprint... Mmm, the latter, alk. conv.... need to
find/match – 2/26/07
Greetings Crew,
First off I'd like to thank Everybody (I hope I didn't leave anybody out). WWM
is one of the most valuable tools I've come across in my quest to someday become
a reef aquarist extraordinaire.
<Heee! You're on your way!>
Over the last couple of years, I've spent much time reading books, searching the
Internet, reading the Internet, even conducting a few experiments. I've always
resisted the temptation to ask any questions which have presumably/formerly been
answered, or that I deemed more advantageously answered through experimentation.
I'm averse to asking for an explanation regarding a topic that has been
thoroughly discussed. That being said, I'm now in need of elucidation.
While reading the daily FAQ for 02/25/07 I habitually followed this link:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nitratesmar.htm
The link was part of the response to a question about Deep Mud Bed for NNR. In
the linked article there is a brief paragraph which mentions alkalinity
affecting the metabolism of nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria. That paragraph
states ..."(about 5-8 dKH is about right, no higher than 12, and you can
multiply these units times 2.8 to get the approximate values in milliequivalents
per liter)"....
<Thank you for this...>
The way I read that, it seems to contradict everything I've learned in the past
about the relationship between dKH and alkalinity. It's always been my
understanding that dividing dKH by 2.8 could give you an approximation of
alkalinity in milliequivalents per liter, or by multiplying alkalinity in
milliequivalents per liter by 2.8 you could get an approximation of dKH.
<Yes... the conversion ratios are as you state... and the desired levels more
like 8-12DKH...>
Is the text that I quoted from the article a misprint?
If not, can you clarify?
Thanks for all your hard work and commitment,
Ted
<Thank you Ted... will find/attach your correction... In previous years (and I
wish they were back!) there were other folks that helped place a good deal of
the responses... some w/o critical thought. Bob Fenner> <<RMF couldn't find...>>
ALK measuring...ppm or dKH? and don't forget meq/l
Hello everyone! Tonight I spent a few hours reading at your site about
"Understanding Calcium and Alkalinity", and the differences between
alkalinity and Ph. Well, I finally got it!
<very good to hear!>
Thank you for sharing your collective brains and education.
<hmmm... there's a joke in there somewhere <G>>
It's such a good feeling when something finally "clicks". Now, I feel
that I can move forward, (even if just a few baby steps) into the vast world of
reef keeping. But of course you know I won't let you off the hook that easily, I
have one question for now.
I use "Aqua Lab I" test strips to measure my ph/Alk. What puzzles me
is that when I see measurements at your site for Alkalinity, I see this symbol,
"dKH". On my Aqua Lab test strips, they measure as ppm., like this:
0-80-120-180-240-300. Do these numbers convert into the alkalinity guidelines of
8-12dKH? I hope you're following me. As always, thank you! Pamela
<indeed Pam... there are several ways to measure hardness (general and
carbonate) and as ppm (parts per million), dKH (German degrees hardness) and meq/l
(milliequivalents per liter). Most test kits have conversions (the
numbers/factors) in the fine print of the instructions for you... somewhere. My
advice would be to get comfortable with dKH or meq/l ranges as they are most
commonly used in popular literature. At last... no worries, you can convert any
at will to another. Do consult your test kit (and in ppm target over 300 ppm.
Actually closer to 400ppm for marines).>
Re: ppm or dKH?
Got it! dKH: To convert degrees of German hardness (dKH) to parts per
million (ppm), multiply by 17. To convert degrees of German hardness (dKH) to
milliequivalents per liter (meq/l), divide by 2.8. This means my tanks dKH is
11! Hence my notoriously low ph of 7.8! This is the reason I bought Kalkwasser,
which I used tonight for the first time. I used the slurry method. Next
question: If my calcium is already high enough, will the Kalkwasser keep pushing
it up? At the present time it's a whopping 420! Thanks Pamela
<I see the light bulb shining over your head from here <G>. Learning
really is fun! (and we are such nerds!). Actually... your 11dKH and 420ppm Ca
are quite good together. Only the hardcore stony coral keepers want/need higher
dKH. Too much Kalk will push your Ca scary high... lets just try aerating your
tank better to increase pH. Verify that this is the problem by testing a glass
of aquarium water before and 12 hours after vigorous aeration. If the pH
increases... you have a CO2 problem or lack of aeration. Common this time of
year (and summer too) with sealed and well insulated houses. A better skimmer or
an extra vigorous airstone in the tank/system alone can raise the pH without
needing any more supplements. Do try this first. Best regards! Anthony>
How many meg/L = dKH ?
It seems there are two standards for alkalinity
measurement, and I'd like to know how to convert one
to the other so I can better understand folks in the
FAQ section of the website.
I've been reading about 3 hrs/night for a week now and
am learning a great deal. Thanks Steve
<Great! 1 meq/L = 2.8 KH, GH, dH, dKH. So 3.5 -5 meq/L = 9.8 dKH -
14 dKH. Your Seachem test will read meq/L. Craig>
- dKH to ppm -
Good day, the crew rules. Can't find a conversion cart for dKH to
ppm. Only found this formula 2.8 dKH =1.0 meg/l = 50
ppm. You know if that's a linear relationship i.e. (200
ppm = 4 meg/l = 11.2 dKH) or know where I might find a table? Any
help as always is greatly appreciated, Thanks.
<Found a calculator! http://saltyzoo.com/SaltyCalcs/AlkConv.php?units=DKH&dkhStr=8 Enjoy!
-Kevin>
- Alkalinity Madness, Follow-up -
Well, here is the FAQ -
"Alk/Calcium
Hi gang, hope everything is groovy.
My alkalinity reading is 60 mg/l (I'm using a Hagen test kit). Does that mean
ppm? What is the conversion equation for dKH or meg/l? (sorry, I've never tested
Alk in the past).
Also I can't seem to get a reading on my Calcium (readings are indicating sky
high, which is improbable) as I use a Hagen test kit for that also. Is there a
better/best kit?
Thanks, you guys rock..
Justaguy
<
Hey Justaguy!
Craig here, and feelin' groovy.
The equivalents between measurements is as follows:
1mg/L = 0.02meq/L
Americans measure alkalinity in meq/L
The German hardness scale is dKH.
So, at 60mg/L X 0.02= 1.2meq/L. so using the measurement you got from the Hagen
kit your alk is 1.2meq/L VERY LOW.
Most keep calcium around 425-475 calcium and Alk at 3.5 to 5 meq/L
(1mg/L=0.02meq/L). Also test pH regularly as well.
I suggest purchasing quality test kits to ensure accuracy.
Salifert and Seachem are two excellent brands.
Have Fun!
Craig>"
So, again, following these guidelines, my alk. would be 3meq/L, is this right?
<It was my understanding that your test kit was measuring KH [carbonate
hardness] which is 1:1 to dKH [German carbonate hardness]... does your kit
measure in some other unit?> There is a difference between meg/L and mg/L
right? <Yes.> How are you getting 54ish?? <By converting from 150 KH.>
What is the correct formula. <Not sure - I use an online calculator because I
just don't have time to do anything else: http://www.saltyzoo.com/SaltyCalcs/AlkConv.php>
How could I possible have 54ish? <Again, was working on the information you
provided which said "I dropped 15 drops to color change. Kit
says, to get KH, multiply number of drops by 10." - that's KH, same as dKH
which is what I plugged into the calculator - I could have misunderstood, it
wouldn't be the first time.> Thanks crew! Micah
<Cheers, J -- >
- Alkalinity & Testing For Such -
Dear, alkalinity Guru:
I purchased the Hagen/Nutrafin carbonate hardness test kit ($15), it measures in
terms of KH. I dropped 15 drops to color change. Kit says,
"To get KH, multiply number of drops by 10." That's 150 mg/L.
<Uhh... that's 150 "KH" if I'm not mistaken which is 54 meq/L.>
Test kit says anything beyond 125 mg/l is unusually high and to contact my
aquarium specialists (that would be you guys!). <A KH of 150 is abnormally
high.> I read in your faq to convert mg/L to meg/L, multiply by .02 ... that
gives me 3meg/L .... in the same faq it says
ideally, the level should be between 3.5 & 5meg/L <That much is true.> ..... so,
I would be on the low side, I guess? <I couldn't find the exact FAQ you were
looking at, but methinks there is a small mistake in there somewhere... your
kit measured a KH of 150 - that's a meq/L of 54-ish - that is on the high side
of high.> is the test kit mistaken in what the ideal level should be? <I
think perhaps it is you that is mistaken, not the kit. I'd run the tests a
couple more times to be certain - if the numbers stay consistently high, you
need to stop your additive regimen and do a couple of water changes.> my
calcium is approx. 400. <That seems unusual for such a high level of
alkalinity - I'd run those tests again, because this sounds like a titration
test, you should only add the reagent until there is a slight hint of color
change - stir after every drop.> pH stays around 8.2.
I have Zo's & shrooms. 12 hour light cycle with 2 96 watt pc's. 1
actinic. thanks crew!
<Cheers, J -- >
- Accurate Alkalinity Test -
Hello all-
I have a question for whoever has the time. <Sounds like I'm next in line -
JasonC here...> Ok, maybe 2 questions.
Alk: 7dkh or 10.5 dKH (this is explained in info below)
Ca: 300mg/l
Ph: 8.4
S.G. 1.025
I have been using the Aquarium Systems Fastest for checking alkalinity. I
recently purchased a refill for the reagent bottle and it came with a different
style tip on the bottle.
I used the tip that came with the new bottle and my alk reading was 10.5dkh. I
put the tip from the old bottle on and the reading was 7dkh. The 7dkh is the
normal reading I have been getting with the old tip, (I have been trying to
raise alk with ReefBuilder) but now it has me wondering if my past tests have
been accurate and my Alk is REALLY 10.5 dKH not 7. I can see that the drops are
a bit smaller with the new tip. <That is a bother... certainly drop size
would be a factor.>
Is there some way I can check the accuracy? 3.5dkh seems like a big margin for
error. I imagine you will suggest comparing against another kit. <You got it
- a different brand would be best.> But who knows. <You could also ask the
folks at the store to test it for you.>
As long as we are on the Alk subject, I change a little less than 10% of water
every week.
I just started using deionized water a few weeks ago and I prep it as follows:
(And I do the same with the top off water) aerate plain water for 24hrs, add
salt, aerate another 24hrs, add buffer if needed. <I'd do that the other way
around - buffer first, then salt.> I use ReefBuilder if Alk is low.
Superbuffer if ph and Alk are low. When I aerate water I use a 600gph
pump with a small air pump hooked into the aeration nipple on the output. It
moves the water around quite well. I was wondering if the water may not get
aerated enough. Should I think about a bigger air pump? <I'm sure this is
fine.>
In the main tank, it seems like I can not get Alk above 7dkh or Ca above 300ish
without adding these supplements all of the time. I add Tech CB in main tank
when Ca is low. It seems like the regular water changes should keep things more
in line. <Regular water changes aren't necessarily going to boost calcium,
but would keep it in stasis. If you have a good number of calcium consuming
organisms, then calcium will get used up if you don't supplement it.> I will
go through a ton of ReefBuilder and Tech CB if I keep this up. <Not uncommon,
is why many people start using calcium reactors.>
Ca is always on the low side also. I will dose with Tech CB and Ca will be up
around 400mg/l for a few days but then drops down again. <Sounds like you
should be dosing calcium on a daily basis and not waiting for the levels to
drop.> I know that Ca and Alk should not both be on the high side at the same
time. And I also read that the Ca and Alk should be in balance before using Tech
Cb. I am assuming that a Ca of 300mg/l and an Alk of 7dkh is in balance (both on
the low side) and I am ok with adding the Tech Cb. <Yes.> But it seems
like I am adding it quite often and not getting much results. <Again, is par
for the course with this type of additive, and potential for consumption of
calcium.> I am fine with spending the money as long as I am on the right
track. <Consider that calcium reactor.> Am I? <For the most part yes,
you're certainly not on the wrong track.> Ph is always around 8.4. It is the
only one that is where I want it (or where it should be).
Hope all is great for you. :) Many thanks for your help. Dennis
<Cheers, J -- >
Hagen KH test kit... and Xenia
Just like to say ahead of time, thanks for helping out! Ok,
here's my problem. On the WWM website I have read many times that you
want to keep the dKH around 8-10. On my Hagen KH test kit it says
that anything above 125 mg/L is too high. When I convert 125 mg/L to
dKH I get 7 dKH. So, if I was to shoot for 8-10 dKH that would be at
least 143.2 mg/L. So what level am I supposed to aim for?
<you want to aim for 8-10 dKH>
My calcium is at 450 ppm right now and my KH is 130 mg/L (or 7.28 dKH). This is
all assuming I did my calculations correctly, please feel free to double check
my math!
<Why don't you try a test kit that is not so confusing. Try Salifert or Red
Sea pHarm. (the reason I say this is if the test is a pain to use you will more
than likely not test as much as you should) Also if the test kit is old it will
give you incorrect readings (there should be a date on the package with
expiration on it.>
While I have you here, I have a question on a pulsing Xenia I have
had my eye on. There is a pulsing Xenia that I want at a LFS, but the
LFS isn't really local! It's about 1.5 - 2 hours away. I
heard that Xenia don't travel so well. It's a large rock completely
covered with Xenia and I would love to have it, but I don't want to get it home
just to find I've killed it in transit. Any help on how/if I should
get it home would be great. Thanks so much... again, and again, and
again!!!
<you should have no problem bringing the xenia home. I would say bring your
own Rubbermaid (in case they do not have large styros) or ask the LFS to place
it in a large styro and with lots of water.2 hours should be no
problem. Remember to acclimate them slow once you get home.
good luck MikeH>
Steve
dKH Question
Thanks for the info, however I guess I still have a question on KH. My
problem is so much that I'm having trouble converting my KH from mg/L to dKH. My
problem is that my test kit says that anything over 125 mg/L is too high and WWM
seems to say that I want 8-10 dKH. 8 dKH = 143.2 mg/L. So that would
be much more than the 125 mg/L that Hagen says is too high. Why would Hagen say
that anything over 125 is too high when it's actually low? Again,
thanks for all the help on this. I need all the help I can get
understanding these things!!! Thanks!
<Is the test kit saying that this is to high for fresh water or salt water. sounds
high for fresh and low for salt. if it is for saltwater don't know
why it says that you want 8-10 dKH Mike H>
Steve
Testing High KH...
Greeting Crew,
<Scott F. with you today!>
I hope this has not been asked before, but I did spend time trying to find the
answer before I sent this email. I have a new calcium reactor and want to test
the affluent before installing into my system. I am tuning with freshly mixed
salt water in my sink as I what to get it tuned-in so that I don't subject my
reef to any mistakes. The information included with my Korallin reactor
indicates that the KH of the effluent should be 25 to 60. Is there a way for me
to test for this value as my Salifert test only measures up to 16 dKH? Dilution
maybe?
<That might be a great idea. My other thought might be to try a test kit with
a larger range (I believe La Motte kits have a pretty broad range). You may need
to shoot an email or two to a manufacturer to get the stats on their kits...>
Thank so much for all the help. You guys have been instrumental in my success (8
months thus far) in reef keeping. Greg
<Glad to be a part of it all, Greg! Keep up the good work and feel free to
contact us again any time! Regards, Scott F>
Question on Carbonate Hardness (KH)
I have a Hagen (KH) test kit and it says the ideal range for saltwater is
105 - 125 mg/l. I have been reading through the FAQ and you all say 11-12 dKH is
good. Is there a way to take my numbers and turn them into the dKH numbers?
<Shawn... my apologies, but we are burring through queries today and I do not
remember the conversion of the top of my head. Please refer to the instructions
with the kit. Most manufacturers have conversions listed for meq/l, ppm and dKH.
If not, let me suggest/trouble you to run it down on a keyword search on Google
("Hardness conversion")>
Alkalinity Measurement
Hello again,
I just did some water tests today: SG 1.025, Temp steady at 80F all day/every
day, Ammonia 0.0-0.1, Nitrate 10-20 (I think I'm color blind), Calcium 435, PH
8.4... The alkalinity test (Red Sea) can be read (according to the colors on the
box) as "very high" or about 3.2 meq/L...
<not "very high" if you are trying to grow corals. It is nicely
elevated but not too high>
isn't there another way to read this measurement? dKH or something like
that?
<indeed... several ways (ppm, dKH) but won't change the facts. Your ALK is
fine, my friend>
These tests (as are all my weekly/daily tests) were taken in the late
afternoon.
<fine... just be sure to test pH after a long dark period as well as
"high noon">
I tried to do a search using the Google engine on your site to try to figure out
the conversion formula, but it's close to midnight here in FL...I am tired,
physically, but my curiosity prevents me from falling asleep.
I have a 55g w/10 gallon sump, built in corner overflow, 2 sweeping power heads
on opposite ends of the tank near the mid water level outputs pointed up, AquaC
Urchin in sump (AWESOME SKIMMER!!!!
<agreed>
More than a cup of blackness every day), about 55lbs of LR (mix of mostly Fiji
and some Atlantic/gulf) been in less than a month (cured it myself), 220 watts
of PC lighting no more than 3 inches from the surface with a big noisy fan,
Chemipure (will also add use of Polyfilter on next carbon change), and probably
one or two other things I can't recall at this time of night.
<all very fine>
I do a 5 or ten gallon water change weekly using DI water, aerated overnight,
buffered overnight, then salt added, left overnight, tested until parameters
match my tank's.
<excellent>
I wouldn't have done any of these things (testing, regular water changes,
lighting, etc.) without the info from your site...thank you.
<our pleasure>
I have a yellow tang, Kole tang, 4 damsels, Astrea snails, and blue legged
hermits, 2 small serpent stars, one large green serpent (will trade this in once
I catch him), two small but growing fast unidentified crabs, a pink carnation
coral (hanging upside down in a small cave, about 8 inches from the sweeping
powerhead running full force), a small Acropora (tan with what looks like pink
or lavender tips...I'm so bad with colors) which is within the top 6 inches from
the surface and about 10 inches away from a sweeping power head running full
force, a small colony of yellow polyps, 2 flower anemones (will trade these in
soon) and one BTA (in tank for almost two months, has not settled down yet). The
fish have been there since November last year with last fish being Kole tang
added in June. All Live stock are well (except for BTA). I was wondering if my
alkalinity is too low? If so, do I just keep adding buffer until I get
to...what? 4.0 meq/L??
<good heavens no! Really... just relax and enjoy this hobby my friend. For
general maintenance, an ALK of 2.5-3 meq/l is fine>
I feel that my current parameters will hinder the growth of coralline.
<nope... consistent levels of calcium and ALK even if slightly low will grow
corallines jest fine. High but ire levels will impede. Again... enjoy your
hobby... this isn't work :) You seem to be well-read and in a systematic habit
with the tank... continue to do so: regular and reliable maintenance>
Am I worrying about nothing?
<big-time!>
Or is my calcium/alk ratio good? The shells of all my snails show growth...does
that count for something?
<yes... especially to the snails<G>>
My only commercial additives are a product called Oceans blend, a two part Ca/Alk,
and I dose Kent iodine once a week.
<with weekly water changes all sounds fine>
Please help or point me to link to understand this better. I've read thru the
calcium and alk articles, but will read again. Shout out to my peeps B.LOVE...keeping
it real all up in his 75-G reef, aw-ite!
Yo-Yo-Yo, Thanx,
Randy M. Yniguez, MA
<word up, my salty brother. Anthony>
Alk/Calcium
Hi gang, hope everything is groovy.
My alkalinity reading is 60 mg/l (I'm using a Hagen test kit). Does that mean
ppm? What is the conversion equation for dKH or meg/l? (sorry, I've never tested
Alk in the past).
Also I can't seem to get a reading on my Calcium (readings are indicating sky
high, which is improbable) as I use a Hagen test kit for that also. Is there a
better/best kit?
Thanks, you guys rock..
Justaguy
Hey Justaguy!
Craig here, and feelin' groovy.
The equivalents between measurements is as follows:
1mg/L = 0.02meq/L
Americans measure alkalinity in meq/L
The German hardness scale is dKH.
So, at 60mg/L X 0.02= 1.2meq/L. so using the measurement you got from the Hagen
kit your alk is 1.2meq/L VERY LOW.
Most keep calcium around 425-475 calcium and Alk at 3.5 to 5 meq/L
(1mg/L=0.02meq/L). Also test pH regularly as well.
I suggest purchasing quality test kits to ensure accuracy.
Salifert and Seachem are two excellent brands.
Have Fun!
Craig
Alk/Calcium
Hi gang, hope everything is groovy.
<yep... just as soon as I get my bong fired up>
My alkalinity reading is 60 mg/l (I'm using a Hagen test kit). Does that mean
ppm?
<nope><<Mmm, yes... mg/l is equivalent to ppm. RMF>>
What is the conversion equation for dKH or meg/l? (sorry, I've never tested Alk
in the past).
<hmmm... I don't recall the conversion off by heart. Are you sure it isn't in
the test kit literature. It surely must be... I've never seen a test kit that
didn't have it>
Also I can't seem to get a reading on my Calcium (readings are indicating sky
high, which is improbable) as I use a Hagen test kit for that also. Is there a
better/best kit?
<definitely... I like Aquarium Systems brand Calcium test kit. Inexpensive
and easy to read the titration point>
Thanks, you guys rock.. Justaguy
<best regards, Anthony>
Calcium and alkalinity question
Hi Craig,
<Hi Jun!>
Another question for you. I went to the LFS and have my calcium and alkalinity
(is KH and dKH the same?) tested today. My Ca level is 320 and KH/dKH is 160.
What do I have to do to get my alkalinity level and Ca level to an acceptable
level. Thanks again (just as I promise more questions to come)......Jun A.
<Okay. dH, GH, KH, and even dKH are alternate terms the Germans gave us for
measuring alkalinity, they are the same. <<Mmm, no. RMF>> I think you may have your alkalinity
test results goofed up, perhaps expressed as dKH when they meant meq/L, or
missing a decimal point? Is it 16.0 dKH or 1.60 meq/L? Based on your tests and
your Toadstool acting up I'll bet your alk is 1.6meq/L. Please double check. If
it is 1.6 it is VERY LOW and you need to get a good Marine Buffer like Seachem
Marine Buffer to keep your alkalinity at 3.5 - 5 meq/L (10 - 14 dKH) ASAP.
Please test your pH as well which should be 8.3 -8.4 just before the lights go
off. Calcium should be around 400-450 mg/L. Seachem makes a good calcium
supplement called "Reef Advantage Calcium" which is a good product.
Follow the label directions exactly for dosing. I would also recommend investing
in a few good quality test kits so you can maintain your water in top condition
without stressing your inhabitants (or waiting to go to the fish store). Seachem
and Salifert are favorites. Please read more about alkalinity and calcium at
WetWebMedia.com. There is much to learn! Craig>
Re: 75 Gallon Reef System
I wanted to thank you for replying to my email, and also I did have a couple of other minor questions. One being that I have noticed that when I was using tap water for topping off my system, that the
alkalinity was naturally higher than when I have used distilled water.
<Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? In the short term, consider the simple addition of... baking soda! Yes, cheap sodium bicarbonate... to make up most all the alkalinity you and your corallines need.>
My other question would be if you knew of any test kits that are more precise in there readings than just by matching color. I have trouble obtaining a good match by comparing colors obtained from readings and the colors on the scales. For instance Ph readings. I suppose the probes would be the only way to get a more accurate analysis of the true values.
<There are amperometric, spectrophotometric et al. types of test gear that are definitely more precise and accurate... but not really justifiable expenses for aquarists use... Instead look into better Colorimetric assays... companies like Salifert, Hach... and you'll do fine. Believe me, these are what I use.>
Thank You
Matt Smith >>
<You're welcome my friend. Bob Fenner>
Hagen test/ tang /DOC questions
Greetings and happy holidays Bob!
I have written before about the 100 gallon tank that has the hair algae problem
(440 w of VHO, T1000 skimmer, 2' sand bed, 100 lbs. LR, a decent amount of
feather Caulerpa in tank and lots of Sargassum). I did take your advice and
added a Salarias fasciatus a week ago. He's a funny little guy. . . so far he
has managed to make the pump returns spotless and the tank walls but I never see
him eat on the LR.
<Time will tell... whether the species on the LR is palatable to this
animal>
Other than a few mushrooms and some button polyps there is no other live stock.
Therefore, the 2 3/4 month old tank has never been fed.
<Mmm, sufficient nutrient for much life can/does come from seawater, tapwater,
substrate, the rock, other organisms being "cycled"...>
The skimmer is still pulling a considerable amount of DOC out of the water and
I've done a 40% water change in the last month. Yep, I still have hair algae and
there's a fuzzy kind of algae that grows on the front glass. Any suggestions for
getting rid of the DOC?
<Just keep doing what you're doing>
More water changes?
<Some... if the nitrates become too much (tens of ppm)>
Right after Christmas I plan to add a purple tang (after quarantine) . I
currently have" 0" readings for all the bad things and a 4 for
nitrates. Does DOC affect tangs?
<Affects all living things>
I also want to add a few aquacultured Sarcophytons. Is the hair algae bad for
them?
<Not necessarily... their presence may in fact reduce the algal growth>
Lastly, my KH test is from Hagen. Every reference I find refers to KH in terms
of small numbers (1-12 etc.) My test expresses the KH as mg/l. How do I convert
to the numbers used in reference materials. My current KH is 120 mg/l. Thanks
for all you do Bob. Have a happy and safe holiday season.
<KH can be converted to mmol/l of CaCO3 by dividing by 17.9
Bob Fenner>
David Dowless
Calcium/Alkalinity
Hello Wet Web Media Consortium ,
Never know who will respond to emails . I am still having a problem getting my calcium levels past 380 after about three weeks of dosing with Kent A and B solutions . All other parameters are within tolerances . I only have Live Rock in the tank with yellow tangs . The tank is a 120 with a large CPR wet/dry/protein skimmer . Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
<Use a Calcium Chloride solution to raise your calcium levels and then maintain it with the two-part solutions.>
Also I've noticed that your Alkalinity levels in FAQ are being measured in dKH , my test kit measures in meg/L . What is the correlation between the two?
<2.8 x meq/l = dKH>
Thanks for the help you guys provide thousands of enthusiasts around the world . Richard Atkinson
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
KH units
I have a question for you and that is how do I lower my KH.? I have bought a new test and my reading is 240 mg/l
thanks in advance, dab
<I am unfamiliar with this scale. I have only ever seen alkalinity measured in German degrees of hardness (dKH) or milliequivalents per liter (meq/l). What brand is this and are there any conversions given with the kit? -Steven Pro>
Re: KH
this is a Hagen carbonate and general hardness test and now I see there
is a conversion chart it was hidden in the flap in the box you multiply
reading times 0.02 to get meq/l I have a reading of 3.2 this is bad I think or at least very low?
<not very low... in fact, just barely on the low end. Really nothing much to worry about. If you have a full reef tank... get the alkalinity up with regular additions of
Seabuffer (tm) or two part liquid calcium mixes. Have faith, my friend. You're fine. Anthony>
Alkalinity
Hi Bob, me again.
<Anthony Calfo in your service>
Thank you for your previous help. I have a problem getting the Alkalinity reading below 140,
<not sure of the measure you are referring to here...ppm? Else, target through conversion a dKH of around 12, or approaching 4 meq/l>
my other readings are as follows. 176 litre tank, Temp 24.5, S.G 1.024, pH 8.1, Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0.2, Nitrate 10, Phosphates 0.25, Calcium 360, Iron 0, Alkalinity 140.
<hmmm... the pH is also low (needs to be higher... like 8.3 by night and 8.6 by day)... your phosphate is also high enough that you should expect nuisance algae soon if you don't already have it.>
The tank is four weeks old and I do a 20 litre water change every week, for some reason I am unable to get the Alkalinity down. There are two domino fish along with six red leg hermit crabs and six turbo snails. Could you please advise on what to use to get the alkalinity down to about <125. Many thanks Colin
<Colin, high alkalinity is rarely a problem.. I believe you've been misguided on this point. Furthermore, you calcium is fine but just about on the low end. You may want to consider using a two-part liquid calcium supplement that will take care of Ca and
Alk like B-Ionic or Sea-Balance. Best regards, Anthony>
KH and dKH
I have an Alkalinity test kit that measures in KH <carbonate hardness>
and not dKH. (I think its KH, the measurement is in the 100 -120 range) I want
to be able to translate that to dKH because that is what most recommendations
are given in.<Alkalinity should be around 8-12 dKH> Is there an easy
formula for this?<Found this link for you hope it helps http://www.chaoticreefer.com/TestKits/SalifertAlkalinity.htm
> Or
can you provide a
recommendation on alkalinity level for a reef tank in KH? <8-12dKH is
recommended>
Thanks.<IanB>
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