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FAQs on Supplementing With Kalkwasser, Interactions with Other
Supplements Related Articles:
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Understanding Calcium & Alkalinity,
The Use of Kalkwasser by Russell Schultz,
Calcium Reactors Related FAQs:
Kalkwasser 1, Kalkwasser 2,
Kalkwasser 3,
Kalkwasser 4, & FAQs on Kalk:
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Kits, Sources of Calcium,
Calcium Supplements, Mixing/Storing
Kalkwasser, Dosing Kalkwasser,
Kalk Reactors, Kalk Automation,
About Kalk Use & Other Supplements, e.g. Magnesium,
Troubleshooting/Fixing,
CaCl2 (Calcium Chloride)/ Pickling Lime Use,
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Supplementing Kalkwasser with carbon dioxide -02/27/08 I just
wanted to run this by the WetWebMedia crew for comment to see if there
is any merit in my implementation of this approach. I have found that if
Kalkwasser as added too quickly or too much there can actually be a fall
in calcium levels even if you avoid a pH spike more than 0.2
The chemistry goes like this... When Calcium Hydroxide solution
(Kalkwasser) is slowly dripped into your aquarium, it captures free
Carbon Dioxide present in the tank water and converts it to Bicarbonate
ions like this: Ca++ + 2(OH-) + 2(CO2) <==> Ca++ + 2(HCO3-) If
you drip too fast or if there is not enough Carbon Dioxide available in
the water, the Bicarbonate ions will be converted to Carbonate ions like
this: Ca++ + 2(OH-) + 2(HCO3-) <==> Ca++ + 2(CO3--) + 2 H2O The
Carbonate ions formed will make the Ca++ you are trying to add to your
tank get wasted by the useless precipitation of Calcium Carbonate
So, too rapid addition of Kalk may actually cause the Calcium and
Alkalinity in your tank to go down instead of up like this: Ca++ +
2(HCO3-) + Ca++ + 2(OH-) <==> 2 CaCO3 + 2 H2O In the above reaction,
a Calcium ion and two Bicarbonate ions from the aquarium combine to form
solid calcium carbonate. This can happen even with a slow drip of
Kalk if there is not enough CO2 in your water -- something you can't
easily control. I have an open top to my aquarium, 300 litres in the
display tank, and 100 litres in the sump. All the corals are LPS corals.
I loose 6 litres a day in evaporation. I have noted falls in calcium
using Kalkwasser even if it is rapidly distributed in front of an 8000
litre per hour Tunze Turbelle pump. This is what I have done over
the last three months. The pH of my tank is consistently 8.3 Each
day I mix up one litre of carbonated water using a soda stream machine,
and add that into the tank. This will drop the pH of the tank to 7.8 But
I follow this up a few minutes later with the addition of 5 litres of
water mixed with 2 teaspoons of Calcium hydroxide over a 10 minutes.
This raises the pH back to 8.3 <interesting> I have checked these
readings over a dozen times and the results are predictable. Adding 2.5
litres of Kalkwasser only pushes the pH up to 8.1 Adding 2.5 liters of
Kalkwasser without the use of carbonated water will raise the pH to 8.5
(good for phosphate precipitation) I us Salifert test kits. Over the
three months, the calcium is steady at 340 and Alk 3.4 without the
addition of any other supplements. Though the calcium levels are
adequate, I would have expected higher levels. <Maybe the calcium is
being used up rapidly?> So am I on to something here, or is my
implementation and understanding flawed in someway? <I think your
chemistry makes sense... and your results make sense. However, I'm not
sure how much (or little--or if at all) this sudden pH drop to 7.8 might
be effecting things. To be frank/honest, we don't actually know all that
much about all the myriad of potential chemical interactions that go on
in a reef tank. Calcium can be sucked out of the water in so many
different ways. It could be used up by organisms, or precipitated out
(maybe even do to the increase in CO2 -this could possibly cause calcium
carbonate precipitation). I'd encourage you to keep experimenting (in a
separate tank maybe-- rather than risk your display/animals). And I
thank you for sharing with us.> Mike Lomb <Best, Sara M.>
Kalk Dosing... A Must To Accurately Measure/Monitor pH – 10/30/07
Howdy guys/gals, <<Cheers Mike!>> Just have a quick question I
can't find an answer to. <<Let’s see if I can help>> I just
recently traded a fish tank for a Stony Reef Kalk reactor (super
excited!!!!). <<Neat!>> I don’t have an ATO unit or pH controller
yet.... but wanted to get this thing into action! <<Mmm...you can get
by without an “automated” top-off unit (and I suggest the Tunze
Osmolator over the ATO gear), but you will need to be able to
closely/frequently monitor pH. I strongly recommend you put the purchase
of a pH meter ahead of any automated top-off equipment, if finances
preclude getting both>> Input comment here LOL. <<Comments
inputted>> Here are some quick specs - 100 gallon tank ph -
8.2-8.4 SG - 1.025 Cal. 400-450 Alk 8-9 Mag - 1300 Mainly
Acropora (10+ small-med colonies), Montipora (10+ small-med colonies),
and one derasa (growing like no tomorrow). <<Sounds very nice>> It
seems like they are consuming quite a bit of carb/bicarb, and Calcium
because I test once a week and the numbers drop by 1 dKH and 50ppm
calcium. I was thinking about setting a Tom's Aqua-Lifter pump on a
digital timer for 1-2 minute intervals 2 hours apart, 6 times at night.
The pump runs about 3.5gph so the dosage would be 1min - .058 gallons -
or 2mins. - .116 gals. Is this going to be too much at one time??
<<Not likely>> 1/10th of a gallon seems like nothing in a 100gallon
tank but do you think it would be detrimental to dose this quick?
<<It is always wise to be cautious, start small, and monitor
continuously to determine the correct “dosage” of Kalkwasser. The water
in the reactor can only dissolve/absorb “so much” of the Kalkwasser...as
long as you are dosing the supernatant and not allowing solids to enter
the tank then I suggest you set the pump and timer to replace “all”
water lost to evaporation...i.e. – run all your top-off water through
the Kalkwasser reactor. If you have an idea of how much water is lost to
evaporation on a daily basis (and you should), then it is a matter of
just doing the math to determine how long the pump must run to replace
this. You could set it up to make the replacement overnight when pH
typically falls...or space it out over a 24-hour period>> pH spike ??
<<Thus the need for an electronic monitor...in my opinion>> Suppose I
won't know until I try it but my pH titration test kits aren't accurate
enough. <<You need to correct this or purchase a pH monitor before
proceeding with the Kalk reactor>> Any advice on how to get this
reactor in action would be greatly appreciated. I really should just
wait, I bet... <<Until you can accurately measure/monitor pH...yes>>
Thanks – Mike <<Regards, EricR>> Bristle Worms,
Calcium Reactors and Kalkwasser interactions Hi Bob, Thanks
for your help/reply with my ?algae problem (CYANO AKA BGA). What I
actually did is followed everything you told me to slow down the CO2 of
the reactor, unplugged the 2nd power head that feeds to the reactor, did
another 20% water change, while scraping off the algae off 4 sides of
the tank, although it is hard to scrape on certain areas due to small
space between the wall and rock. <I understand. Good work>
Besides having a UV(25watts) I also plugged the Ozone to the Berlin
skimmer, which in my guess 03 would kill these BGA since it is
considered a bacteria kept it at 350 with 25mg/hr. <Yes, this would
help.> I read an article on the web site link that I should also stop
adding Iodine so I can starved them, but I'm afraid that I would also
starve the Macro Algaes, and I know that Iodine supports the well being
of both soft and hard corals as well, and for the shrimps to molt, so
I'm afraid I have to add one tonight since I skipped last night. Anyway
the final result was THE BGA seems to slow down a bit, and the Alk is
now 9.5dkh instead of 15 last time, Ca is also down to 400 instead of
498ppm, <Very good... you will see improved results as time goes
forward> but I heard if you have SPS it should be above 400ppm, I
have purple Montipora, and 1 yellow Porites is 400 ppm okay,
<Absolutely... natural seawater has a calcium level that is much lower
than this...> oh! I also drip Kalkwasser for water make-up and also
to precipitate Phosphate <What? Along with using a calcium reactor?
Don't do this... a real source of trouble... and likely the principal
source of your troubles... disproportionate loss of magnesium... at any
length, cease the Kalk use> that could be leaching from the additives
and activated carbon. <Doubtful> Anyway my biggest concern now is
I believe it's bristle worm, I went to the site to check out pictures of
bristle worm, but mine are small and so many that they are all over
the rock and corals, one of my finger leather, flesh was coming off and
some areas are turning black. I read somewhere to use a glass and
place food so this bristle will come inside, and they won't be able to
come out, have not tried that yet, i decided to buy a trap, along with 2
sixline wrasse. Somehow I thought I read something about this wrasse
keeping the population of bristle worms in check. <Most of the time,
small bristle worms species are no problem... and a proliferation of
them an indication of something else amiss... too much food, lack of
predatory checks...> Here's the results, have not placed the trap
yet, one of my wrasse died 2 days later because the bigger wrasse is a
bully. Anyway what this wrasse do is eat the bristle worm the whole day
and he has a big stomach and swims left to right eating every worm he
finds, since I feed lightly now due to the previous BGA problem, I even
saw the yellow tang swallowed bristle worm. I guess I solve 1 problem,
but have another, which I read from the FFExpress Faq's that as long as
the bristle worm are small it is okay and in fact they are beneficial
(meaning that they will eat detritus I assumed, and they are part of the
fauna). <Yes...> Sorry I ask too many question, but I just have
one more (PLEASE!) I was planning to use the reef filler that I bought
from Champion. <Good idea> My plan was to somehow figure out my
evaporation rate and keep using the Kalkwasser slowly <Just use clean
freshwater... leave out the Kalk> dripped and keep running the CA
reactor because it's doing so good maintaining the Ca/Alk level, then
Premixed my salt water (along with Iodine and Trace elements) in a 40
gallon tank for1-2 days then transferring them to a big container like
180 gal drum, which sits for 2 weeks with powerhead and heater at all
time, and some how taking the 5% out from the sump and adding a 5% from
the 180 gal premixed. This process is on a continuous basis, but
occasionally will clean the detritus out of the tank when necessary. I
also bought a Tsunami AT1 auto top off, but can't figure out how it
works, <Contact them...> I'm assuming that new water have to be
the same level as the sump in order to work, but I'll have to try that.
<Doesn't have to be the same level> Is small frequent water changes
better than a big monthly changes? <Yes... weekly probably ideal>
Thanks a lot Bob I don't know what to do without you! I heard you were
planning to be in Monterey (some type of reef convention) this year
along with other DR's when will that be, and is anyone welcome to go?
<Yes... the Western Marine Conference... their link is on the Links
Pages on the www.WetWebMedia.com site> Thank you very much!!!!
Rommel <You're welcome my friend... you're on your way to great
improvement. Bob Fenner> Kalkwasser and Cyanobacteria
Hello. <cheers, my friend. Anthony Calfo> I have a 30 gallon reef
set up right now. I have noticed very small bits of cyanoBACTERIA that I
have been removing manually each time they pop up (infrequent and small,
but still present every other week or so). <removed by slurping out
with a siphon, right? not stirring up?> I use RO water for top-offs
and changes. <do aerate first and then buffer before using> My
friend who is a fish store guy, told me that using Kalkwasser not only
helps with the calcium levels, but can also help (to a certain degree)
with alkalinity and might clear out any Cyanobacteria. <he is very
wise on these matters indeed. Agreed> He has done this in his tank.
My question is this...I was thinking about using a SLOW Kalkwasser drip
in conjunction with Aragamilk to raise both calcium levels and
alkalinity respectively. <I wouldn't bother with the Aragamilk>
Is there some danger to this with my mini reef? <not at all.
Kalkwasser used properly is a great benefit. Simply never add so much
that your pH jumps more than .2 tenths of a point in a short period of
time. Test the first few times you dose to determine how much/how fast.
Kalkwasser also improves protein skimming and precipitates phosphates. I
wrote about the merits of its use in reef aquariology at length in my
book> It is not overstocked at all, and it uses the Berlin system (I
emailed before about a couple of Anthias, but they reside in a 55 fish
only). Meaning that I use a skimmer and LR for filtration with about a
3-4 inch sand bed made from aragonite. <sounds very nice> I am
looking to avoid swings in pH, <dose Kalk after lights are off then>
boost up calcium, as well as clean up the Cyano, but I am rather
skittish about adding anything to my small tank due to the low volume.
<again, a simple matter of a concurrent pH test the first few times
applied> Currently I simply under-dose Kent Marine Iodine, Molybdenum
and calcium on a bi-triweekly basis, which are all supposed to be able
to be dosed with Kalkwasser. <go easy on the liquid calcium
(chloride accumulates and is a nightmare in the long-run) and do add
SeaBuffer to this program. You'll want an Alkalinity test kit too>
Any advice on how to approach starting this new Kalkwasser drip or on
how to further avoid Cyano will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Paullee
<best regards, Anthony Calfo>
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