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FAQs about Fungiid Coral Health/Disease 4

Related Articles: Coral Pests and Disease; pests, predators, diseases and conditions by Sara Mavinkurve, Fungiid Corals

Related FAQs: Fungiid Disease 1, Fungiid Disease 2, Fungiid Disease 3, & Coral Disease, Fungiid Corals 1Fungiid Corals 2Fungiid Identification, Fungiid Behavior, Fungiid Compatibility, Fungiid Selection, Fungiid Systems, Fungiid Feeding, Fungiid Reproduction, Stony/True Coral, Coral System Set-Up, Coral System Lighting, Stony Coral Identification, Stony Coral Selection, Coral Placement Foods/Feeding/Nutrition, Disease/Health, Propagation, Growing Reef CoralsStony Coral Behavior,

Long Tentacled Plate Coral, losing, gen.  – 10/31/09
Howdy once again.
<Erik... where's the prev. corr.?>
My Plate Coral has gotten worse. I originally had it in a fairly linear flow of strong current. It did not appear to like that location, so I moved it to an area where the tentacles can wave back and forth gently.
The area that received the heavy linear flow is not dead and there are small pods crawling on it. I assume they eat the decaying flesh.
<... no>
However, I have a Blue Zoanthid frag that closed over a week ago and will not open. I have seen these pods on it as well.
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Rough picture, but you can make out two long antennae, two short tail lines. This one is rather darker than most. The others are very clear and hard to get on camera.
Water
79 F
NH3 - 0
NO2 - 0
NO3 <10
Alk - 2.0 milli equivalents per liter
PO4 - .01
PH - 8.3
Ca - 450
<[Mg]?>
Here is the how the plate coral looks now.
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Is there anything I can do to help this coral or the Blue Zoanthid?
<Likely so...>
All my other corals are doing extremely well. They are growing strong and in the case of one Paly are spreading around the tank. My Xenia, Tubastrea, Duncansoma, Palys, Star Polys are all going strong and spreading. I am at a loss to figure out what steps to take. I even had an early Paly attacked by a crab and the body mass of the Paly's disappeared into the reef, it has since popped up out of the coral sand is now spreading.
<Not atypical... and likely this is the "winning" organism at the others expense here>
I feed Oyster feast every other day or third day.
<... You need to read re the nutrition of the life you're keeping>
Kind Regards,
Erik Hayes
<And here: http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt.htm
and the linked files above... Bob Fenner>

Re: Pistol Shrimp Trapped, Fungiid hlth.  4/16/09
Boy was I wrong!
<Ahh!>
I took out the rock with the suspected pistol shrimp and carefully looked at the hole where I thought he was residing. Needless to say, The blood red carapace was actually the empty shell of a razor clam. Back to trying to find the location of the mysterious clicking.
<I see>
Since I have your rapt attention, I would like to ask your opinion on one more item developing in my tank. My plate coral (Fungia) has started separating from its skeleton, inflating itself to let the current assist in
separation. I know that this is one way that they can ultimately reproduce this way, but should I be concerned that something else might be causing this?
<Yes... Look to other cnidarians nearby, or not... Ones may well be mal-influencing this Fungiid>
The water conditions are acceptable with low nitrates and nitrites. Any suggestions are, as always, greatly appreciated.
By the way, Bob, let me know if you'll be driving through Irvine soon - it's Guinness time!
<I'll say!>
Regards,
The other Scott F.
<BobF>

Re: Pistol Shrimp Trapped, now Fungiid hlth. 4/16/09
Thanks Bob.
There are no other life forms near the plate coral to cause this kind of reaction. Should I continue to target feed it in hopes that it will either return to health or reproduce, or should I just let it go to see what
happens?
<I would target feed Fungiids... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/fungiidfdgfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. BobF>
Regards,
The other Scott F.

Cycloseris algae removal – 03/03/09
hey gang,
I recently bought an orange cycloseris online, when it came in i opened the box and to my dismay it had two spots covered in algae.
<It's about dead if not there already... Write, call, ask for credit, replacement>
A little slice of dead tissue for lack of better wording was covered in algae and a spot by the corals mouth was also covered in algae...looks like a hair algae to me but im no expert. After searching through your great site looking for ways to remove algae on the corals dead tissue i found no answers so i used my great man instinct...and didn't ask for help. I took a toothbrush and cut down a lot of the bristles so it would be more course.
<Mmm, no... not a valid course of action here...>
i scrubbed the spots plagued with the green nuisance and did the best i could while doing my best not to harm this little creature. I got most of it off but today i looked at it and it appears as if most of it grew back.
It is feeding (frozen mysis shrimp) and its tentacles are present all day, by the looks of it I would say that it is doing alright. My only questions are is there a better way to remove it?
<Not really a useful question...>
and if so how? any other suggestions as always are greatly appreciated!!
thanks,
-Alex
<If anything Alex, I'd fragment this Fungiid... see WWM re... outside the system... and toss the algae-present pieces... they're shot. Bob Fenner>

Plate Coral Problems 02/15/09
Hello to all.
I haven't had to write you for quite a while as all has been going well in my system.
Parameters: 125 gallon mixed sps and LPSs, SG= 1.023, DKH= 10, Nitrate = 1 ppm, Phosphate = 0, Ammonia = 0, Temp = 74 degrees F
Water change = 30 - 40 gallons bi weekly, Filtering = 2 Eheim wet dry filters + 4 oscillating power heads
No skimming and no UV
<74F, SG of 1.023... wet/dry filtration and no skimming?! ...man, you're killing me! >
plenum under 4" sand bed 150 lbs live rock covered in coralline algae and sponge
Many little critters and corals along with main stock of LPS (Even visible copepods in the sand bed)
I have had this short tentacled plate coral for over a year. Recently my blood shrimp pair set up house in reach of the plate and lo and behold, the instant the plate coral catches some food, the shrimp dive on him and steel it. I created a cage so that I could feed it in peace but, I have noticed damage to the tissue around its "mouth". My assumption is that the shrimp are still stealing even after the coral has actually consumed the food.
This is supported by me catching one with its pincer half way down the feeding orifice. The question is this, what can I do about the tissue damage? There is already algae growth on the exposed skeleton. The coral is still feeding and otherwise appears happy but I am concerned about the tissue damage since it does not appear to be regenerating and is not likely to grow over the algae. I actually read an article about fragging these corals and was wondering if I should try it as a last ditch effort to save it. If I can successfully frag it, I can move the pieces to the other side of the tank away from the shrimp.
<Well, when a Fungia loses its mouth, it's a challenge to get it to recover, but it's certainly not impossible. It just needs a lot of TLC... in the long term though, sounds like you might have to move those shrimp.
Cheers,
Sara M.>

Re: Plate Coral Problems 02/16/09
I thought I would send on some pictures of the plate I want to save. I also include a picture of a "rescue" brain that although the main portion of the animal failed, appears to be doing something similar to the Fungia described in your articles by producing a "daughter" coral.
<I think you're referring to when Fungia produce anthocauli. What's going on with your rescue Mussid might look similar, but it's not the same deal.
What happens sometimes with the open brain corals... when they die off, but there's a glob or lump of healthy tissue left... they can regrow. But they don't regrow into the dead skeleton. They just start growing a whole new skeleton. So it's not so much a true "anthocauli" because the "offspring" is not really an offspring at all, but the parent colony regenerating the small bit of it that was left after most of it died. With the Fungia and anthocauli, the whole parent colony dies off, but springs these offspring.
There are some reports though, that Fungia might produce anthocauli even when they're not dying. In any case, it's a different scenario than when, rather, you just have a regenerating bit of coral. Do you understand what I'm saying/describing?>
I have decided to leave that one alone and see what happens. The picture of the plate shows where the algae has begun growing on the original damage by the mouth. This whole process is now months old. Just wondering if I should
continue to leave it alone.
<I would just leave it alone... unless you can very easily pull the algae off. I've had this happen to me with Fungia at least twice before. They can come back if you just be careful with them (keep your water quality high... good feeding, lighting, water movement, etc.).
Cheers,
Sara M.>

 

Re: Plate Coral Problems 02/19/09
Hi Sara and thanks again for the advice on the plate coral. As for lower temp and salinity, this is not the only method I use just an added stabilizer. The two spray bars and four oscillating powerheads pretty much ensure rapid turn over of the water in the tank along with providing surface turbidity. Since it is also known that lower salinity and temperature increases the amount of dissolved oxygen that water can hold, I keep it at the lower ends of the acceptable parameters.
<Ok, but... why do you assume that having maximum dissolved oxygen is more important than having ideal temperature and salinity? Well, in any case, it's your system.>
I realize with a larger volume of water I should probably not worry about a few degrees of temp or .002 increase in SG but, it does help me maintain peace of mind. Thanks again for your rapid responses and I will continue to
follow your postings. Keep up the good work. ;)
<Same to you, thanks.>
Sincerely
Beth Beardsley
<Cheers,
Sara M.>

Tongue Coral, hlth., data shortage, reading    - 02/08/09
Dear WetWebMedia;
I have recently added a tongue coral to the sand in my tank. Within the last few days it has developed a large "jelly" spot on the side, it is all gooey in that area
<Mmm, bad sign. Perhaps just touched roughly in this area>
We have been feeding all the corals twice per week with the liquid phytoplankton and keeping the coral lights (220 watts) on for 8 hours, as recommended by the aquarium shop. The other corals in the tank seem to be doing fine. We have a 50 gallon tank, two fish, some peppermint shrimps, a couple of starfish, and some scooters. Should I be doing something more for the tongue? Thank you.
~Julie
Santa Rosa, CA
<Mmm, don't know from the data presented... An image of the Fungiid might help... knowing water quality tests as well as the types of foods... Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/fungiidae.htm
The linked files above: Systems, Feeding... Bob Fenner>

Fungia recovering?  2/5/09
Dear Crew,
<Carolyn>
Sorry to pester you twice in one week! I rehomed a green Fungia coral last August which lived in the tank seemingly happily until December when I noticed that it wasn't expanding its polyps. It went from being quite a fleshy, mobile animal one week to what looked like a coral skeleton that you sometimes see on sale, although it retained its green colouration.
Sad at its apparent loss, I couldn't bring myself to remove it from the tank so there it stayed... last night I was feeding the tank as normal and noticed that the Fungia had opened its mouth and appeared to be feeding on the lobster eggs I'd just added. Sure enough, when I checked again later the mouth had closed again.
Either I'm seeing things or my coral has exhibited behaviour that I wasn't aware was possible?!
<Is very possible that some life remains, Fungiids can look "about all gone" and make comebacks>
The water parameters are:
ammonia/nitrite/nitrate 0
phosphate 0
calcium 420ppm
magnesium 1320ppm
pH 8-8.2
dKH 14
salinity 1.025
temperature 25 Celsius (77F)
I'm concerned that the dKH is high and wondered if that might have affected the Fungia?
<Mmm, maybe a factor>
I dose with iodine daily
<I would only do this weekly...>
and use Salifert all in one additive weekly as required.
Many many thanks for once again reading my ramblings,
Carolyn
<Thank you for sharing. Bob Fenner>






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