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FAQs about Fungiid Coral Health/Disease 4
Related Articles:
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by Sara Mavinkurve, Fungiid Corals,
Related FAQs: Fungiid Disease 1,
Fungiid Disease 2, Fungiid Disease 3,
& Coral Disease,
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Identification, Fungiid Behavior,
Fungiid Compatibility, Fungiid
Selection, Fungiid Systems,
Fungiid Feeding, Fungiid
Reproduction, Stony/True Coral,
Coral System Set-Up, Coral System
Lighting, Stony Coral Identification,
Stony Coral Selection, Coral Placement,
Foods/Feeding/Nutrition,
Disease/Health, Propagation,
Growing Reef Corals, Stony
Coral Behavior, | 
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Long Tentacled Plate Coral, losing, gen.
– 10/31/09
Howdy once again.
<Erik... where's the prev. corr.?>
My Plate Coral has gotten worse. I originally had it in a fairly linear
flow of strong current. It did not appear to like that location, so I
moved it to an area where the tentacles can wave back and forth gently.
The area that received the heavy linear flow is not dead and there are
small pods crawling on it. I assume they eat the decaying flesh.
<... no>
However, I have a Blue Zoanthid frag that closed over a week ago and
will not open. I have seen these pods on it as well.
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Rough picture, but you can make out two long antennae, two short tail
lines. This one is rather darker than most. The others are very clear
and hard to get on camera.
Water
79 F
NH3 - 0
NO2 - 0
NO3 <10
Alk - 2.0 milli equivalents per liter
PO4 - .01
PH - 8.3
Ca - 450
<[Mg]?>
Here is the how the plate coral looks now.
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Is there anything I can do to help this coral or the Blue Zoanthid?
<Likely so...>
All my other corals are doing extremely well. They are growing strong
and in the case of one Paly are spreading around the tank. My Xenia,
Tubastrea, Duncansoma, Palys, Star Polys are all going strong and
spreading. I am at a loss to figure out what steps to take. I even had
an early Paly attacked by a crab and the body mass of the Paly's
disappeared into the reef, it has since popped up out of the coral sand
is now spreading.
<Not atypical... and likely this is the "winning" organism at the others
expense here>
I feed Oyster feast every other day or third day.
<... You need to read re the nutrition of the life you're keeping>
Kind Regards,
Erik Hayes
<And here: http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt.htm
and the linked files above... Bob Fenner>
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Re: Pistol Shrimp Trapped, Fungiid hlth. 4/16/09
Boy was I wrong!
<Ahh!>
I took out the rock with the suspected pistol shrimp and carefully
looked at the hole where I thought he was residing. Needless to say,
The blood red carapace was actually the empty shell of a razor clam.
Back to trying to find the location of the mysterious clicking.
<I see>
Since I have your rapt attention, I would like to ask your opinion
on one more item developing in my tank. My plate coral (Fungia) has
started separating from its skeleton, inflating itself to let the
current assist in
separation. I know that this is one way that they can ultimately
reproduce this way, but should I be concerned that something else
might be causing this?
<Yes... Look to other cnidarians nearby, or not... Ones may well be
mal-influencing this Fungiid>
The water conditions are acceptable with low nitrates and nitrites.
Any suggestions are, as always, greatly appreciated.
By the way, Bob, let me know if you'll be driving through Irvine
soon - it's Guinness time!
<I'll say!>
Regards,
The other Scott F.
<BobF>
Re: Pistol Shrimp Trapped, now Fungiid hlth.
4/16/09
Thanks Bob.
There are no other life forms near the plate coral to cause this
kind of reaction. Should I continue to target feed it in hopes that
it will either return to health or reproduce, or should I just let
it go to see what
happens?
<I would target feed Fungiids... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/fungiidfdgfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. BobF>
Regards,
The other Scott F.
Cycloseris algae removal – 03/03/09 hey gang, I
recently bought an orange cycloseris online, when it came in i
opened the box and to my dismay it had two spots covered in algae.
<It's about dead if not there already... Write, call, ask for
credit, replacement> A little slice of dead tissue for lack of
better wording was covered in algae and a spot by the corals mouth
was also covered in algae...looks like a hair algae to me but im no
expert. After searching through your great site looking for ways to
remove algae on the corals dead tissue i found no answers so i used
my great man instinct...and didn't ask for help. I took a toothbrush
and cut down a lot of the bristles so it would be more course.
<Mmm, no... not a valid course of action here...> i scrubbed the
spots plagued with the green nuisance and did the best i could while
doing my best not to harm this little creature. I got most of it off
but today i looked at it and it appears as if most of it grew back.
It is feeding (frozen mysis shrimp) and its tentacles are present
all day, by the looks of it I would say that it is doing alright. My
only questions are is there a better way to remove it? <Not
really a useful question...> and if so how? any other suggestions
as always are greatly appreciated!! thanks, -Alex <If
anything Alex, I'd fragment this Fungiid... see WWM re... outside
the system... and toss the algae-present pieces... they're shot. Bob
Fenner> |  |
Plate Coral Problems 02/15/09 Hello to all. I haven't had
to write you for quite a while as all has been going well in my system.
Parameters: 125 gallon mixed sps and LPSs, SG= 1.023, DKH= 10, Nitrate =
1 ppm, Phosphate = 0, Ammonia = 0, Temp = 74 degrees F Water change =
30 - 40 gallons bi weekly, Filtering = 2 Eheim wet dry filters + 4
oscillating power heads No skimming and no UV <74F, SG of 1.023...
wet/dry filtration and no skimming?! ...man, you're killing me! >
plenum under 4" sand bed 150 lbs live rock covered in coralline algae
and sponge Many little critters and corals along with main stock of
LPS (Even visible copepods in the sand bed) I have had this short
tentacled plate coral for over a year. Recently my blood shrimp pair set
up house in reach of the plate and lo and behold, the instant the plate
coral catches some food, the shrimp dive on him and steel it. I created
a cage so that I could feed it in peace but, I have noticed damage to
the tissue around its "mouth". My assumption is that the shrimp are
still stealing even after the coral has actually consumed the food.
This is supported by me catching one with its pincer half way down the
feeding orifice. The question is this, what can I do about the tissue
damage? There is already algae growth on the exposed skeleton. The coral
is still feeding and otherwise appears happy but I am concerned about
the tissue damage since it does not appear to be regenerating and is not
likely to grow over the algae. I actually read an article about fragging
these corals and was wondering if I should try it as a last ditch effort
to save it. If I can successfully frag it, I can move the pieces to the
other side of the tank away from the shrimp. <Well, when a Fungia
loses its mouth, it's a challenge to get it to recover, but it's
certainly not impossible. It just needs a lot of TLC... in the long term
though, sounds like you might have to move those shrimp. Cheers,
Sara M.> Re: Plate Coral Problems 02/16/09 I
thought I would send on some pictures of the plate I want to save. I
also include a picture of a "rescue" brain that although the main
portion of the animal failed, appears to be doing something similar to
the Fungia described in your articles by producing a "daughter" coral.
<I think you're referring to when Fungia produce anthocauli. What's
going on with your rescue Mussid might look similar, but it's not the
same deal. What happens sometimes with the open brain corals...
when they die off, but there's a glob or lump of healthy tissue left...
they can regrow. But they don't regrow into the dead skeleton. They just
start growing a whole new skeleton. So it's not so much a true
"anthocauli" because the "offspring" is not really an offspring at all,
but the parent colony regenerating the small bit of it that was left
after most of it died. With the Fungia and anthocauli, the whole parent
colony dies off, but springs these offspring. There are some
reports though, that Fungia might produce anthocauli even when they're
not dying. In any case, it's a different scenario than when, rather, you
just have a regenerating bit of coral. Do you understand what I'm
saying/describing?> I have decided to leave that one alone and see
what happens. The picture of the plate shows where the algae has begun
growing on the original damage by the mouth. This whole process is now
months old. Just wondering if I should continue to leave it alone.
<I would just leave it alone... unless you can very easily pull the
algae off. I've had this happen to me with Fungia at least twice before.
They can come back if you just be careful with them (keep your water
quality high... good feeding, lighting, water movement, etc.).
Cheers, Sara M.> |  |
Re: Plate Coral Problems 02/19/09 Hi Sara and thanks again
for the advice on the plate coral. As for lower temp and salinity, this
is not the only method I use just an added stabilizer. The two spray
bars and four oscillating powerheads pretty much ensure rapid turn over
of the water in the tank along with providing surface turbidity. Since
it is also known that lower salinity and temperature increases the
amount of dissolved oxygen that water can hold, I keep it at the lower
ends of the acceptable parameters. <Ok, but... why do you assume
that having maximum dissolved oxygen is more important than having ideal
temperature and salinity? Well, in any case, it's your system.> I
realize with a larger volume of water I should probably not worry about
a few degrees of temp or .002 increase in SG but, it does help me
maintain peace of mind. Thanks again for your rapid responses and I will
continue to follow your postings. Keep up the good work. ;)
<Same to you, thanks.> Sincerely Beth Beardsley <Cheers,
Sara M.> |
Tongue Coral, hlth., data shortage, reading - 02/08/09
Dear WetWebMedia; I have recently added a tongue coral to the sand in
my tank. Within the last few days it has developed a large "jelly" spot
on the side, it is all gooey in that area <Mmm, bad sign. Perhaps
just touched roughly in this area> We have been feeding all the
corals twice per week with the liquid phytoplankton and keeping the
coral lights (220 watts) on for 8 hours, as recommended by the aquarium
shop. The other corals in the tank seem to be doing fine. We have a 50
gallon tank, two fish, some peppermint shrimps, a couple of starfish,
and some scooters. Should I be doing something more for the tongue?
Thank you. ~Julie Santa Rosa, CA <Mmm, don't know from the data
presented... An image of the Fungiid might help... knowing water quality
tests as well as the types of foods... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/fungiidae.htm The linked files above: Systems,
Feeding... Bob Fenner> Fungia recovering?
2/5/09 Dear Crew, <Carolyn> Sorry to pester you twice
in one week! I rehomed a green Fungia coral last August which lived in
the tank seemingly happily until December when I noticed that it wasn't
expanding its polyps. It went from being quite a fleshy, mobile animal
one week to what looked like a coral skeleton that you sometimes see on
sale, although it retained its green colouration. Sad at its apparent
loss, I couldn't bring myself to remove it from the tank so there it
stayed... last night I was feeding the tank as normal and noticed that
the Fungia had opened its mouth and appeared to be feeding on the
lobster eggs I'd just added. Sure enough, when I checked again later the
mouth had closed again. Either I'm seeing things or my coral has
exhibited behaviour that I wasn't aware was possible?! <Is very
possible that some life remains, Fungiids can look "about all gone" and
make comebacks> The water parameters are: ammonia/nitrite/nitrate
0 phosphate 0 calcium 420ppm magnesium 1320ppm pH 8-8.2
dKH 14 salinity 1.025 temperature 25 Celsius (77F) I'm
concerned that the dKH is high and wondered if that might have affected
the Fungia? <Mmm, maybe a factor> I dose with iodine daily <I
would only do this weekly...> and use Salifert all in one additive
weekly as required. Many many thanks for once again reading my
ramblings, Carolyn <Thank you for sharing. Bob Fenner>
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