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FAQs on Marine Algae and Their Control 15
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Control 16, SW Algae Control 17,
SW Algae Control 18, & Marine
Algicide Use, Nutrient
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Friend Morgan Lidster of Inland Aquatics doing "the algae shake" at
a service account that the counter-balance on the algal scrubber had
failed.
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Algae Problem, SW 9/23/08 I
am at a loss with this problem, and I really cannot hesitate any longer
to direct it to the experts here. <Hope we can help> We have been
cycling a 120 gallon tank for approximately 1 month. We went through the
stage of brown algae (probably diatoms) <agreed> , and now we are
being plagued with green algae on the rocks and aquarium glass, and I
mean a good amount. <There are many kinds of “green algae”. Can you be
more specific? Hair algae, Bryopsis, bubble, or just plain green tint>
Someone advised us to let it be, let the tank continue cycling, and then
scrape it off when cycling was complete. We have been able to do this
for a couple of days at a time, but then we break down and clean things
up by cleaning the glass. Our water quality checks out good, with the
exception of Magnesium at about 1500, and Phosphate at .2. For some
reason, Magnesium also runs high in our 47 gallon reef, but we have
absolutely no problem with algae or coral deterioration there. So, my
questions are a few: What might be causing this algae, and how, if
possible, can we get rid of it? <Your tank is still new, there could
be many reasons for this algae, which I wouldn’t worry too much about
for now. What are your tank parameters? Ammonia, Nitrate, Alkalinity,
etc. These would help with determining your water quality more so than
Magnesium.> How will we know when the tank has completed cycling?
<Test for ammonia, once that has broken down it becomes nitrates and
completes the cycle. More info found here
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-06/dw/index.php> There
are 14 blue damsels and one scooter blenny in the tank. There are a
couple of corals (ashamedly, I cannot give you their names at this time,
but they seem to be doing very well). There are also a couple of feather
dusters. Lighting is via two 150 W halides, and 4x54 W Actinics. We run
the halides for 10 hours per day, and the Actinics for 12 hours per day.
<Ahh, this could be the very cause of your algae problem. Excessive
light. Try cutting your light cycle back to 6-7 hours on the halides and
the actinics for only 8-9 hours max.> There is approximately 100
pounds of live rock in the tank. We do not have any snails in the tank
at this time, nor any other algae eating life. <Adding snails to the
tank would be a great help in keeping your algae down.> Is this
normal? <It would be normal for someone with no snails and a 12 hour
light cycle on a new tank> I would greatly appreciate any help you
may offer with this unpleasant situation. Thank you for your help,
Best regards, Jeffrey Castaldo <Wish you the best, Jessy>
Brown algae in cycling tank, 9/18/08 Hello, and thank you
for the great advice your website has provided to me so far. <Hi>
I have been cycling a 120 gallon tank for approximately 4 weeks. We have
had live rock in the tank for about 2 1/2 weeks (73 pounds) within the
past week we added some bleached white rock in the tank as well
(probably another 25 pounds or so). We are noticing a brown film on some
of the white rocks, and just tonight when we came in I was shocked at
the amount of algae on the walls of the tank. <Probably diatoms, or
perhaps Cyanobacteria. Simple organisms that are first to colonize
barren areas.> We remove the algae from the glass every day with a
Mag Float. The algae on the glass is brownish , and there is definitely
a brownish color on the white rocks, as well as on the aragonite bottom
(in patches). <Can take over a tank quickly if allowed to. Control
through nutrient limitations.> The water is reverse osmosis, and
tests fine. We only noticed pH was 8.4. We have not begun doing
water changes on this tank as of yet. There are a dozen blue damsels and
one scooter blenny in the tank at this time, as well as a couple of
corals and feather dusters. <Too much life too fast, and the blenny
will likely starve in a new tank. This is also contributing to your
algae growth by supplying lots of what the diatoms need to grow.> The
fish have been present for a couple of weeks, the corals about four days
(probably a mistake for putting them in this tank too soon). Calcium is
about 400. The Skimmer we are using is an ETSS Evolution 500 powered
by a Mag 9.5 as recommended. The lighting is two 150 W halides and four
54 water 460 T5 Actinics (Outer Orbit Pro). We run the halides 10 hours
per day, and the Actinics 12 hours per day. We do not have any
snails in the tank at present. Is it time to introduce them, and can you
please suggest species and how many of each. <Depends on what you
intend to keep in the tank. Turbos, Ceriths, Nassarius, and Astraea
snails are generally all ok for aquariums.> I know that I have thrown
a lot at you at once, but we greatly appreciate and highly respect your
advice. <No problem.> Best regards, Jeffrey <See here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/gastropo.htm and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/diatomidfaqs.htm for more.> <Chris>
Cloudy green water... SW, algal world, die-off... 7/31/08
I searched your site but didn't find anything that really relates to
my problem. I have a 55 gallon FOWLR tank (hoping to covert to a
reef tank) that has been running for about 2 months. I cycled it
with some new live rock and some from my old established tank.
Ammonia, nitrates, nitrites and phosphate are all at zero. <Wow!>
PH is 8.4, salinity is 1.025 and calcium is 250. <Mmm... a bit
low... and your alkalinity?> Two nights ago I did a 10% water
change, cleaned the power heads and replaced the carbon filter. The
next morning the water was a cloudy green color. It appears to be
some sort of dissolved algae which, by the way I have a lot of in my
tank. <Mmm... see below> Red slime, hair, and lots of green.
You name it I've got it. I also add strontium, calcium and PhytoPlex
for my future corals. <... I would not add the latter... for
future anything> I've done tests twice since then with excellent
results but it keeps getting worse. Now I can barely see my fish
<?!> (1 pink spotted goby and pistol shrimp pair, 2 false
percula, 1 orange tailed damsel, 1 royal Gramma, various hermit
crabs and snails and a peppermint shrimp, which don't seem to mind
it. But the day after the water change I tried to add a green
chromis and it was dead the next morning. <Trouble, you betcha>
I'm totally stumped about this green water situation. Any
suggestions on what to do or what is happening would be great.
Thanks. Jamie <I suspect... as a good guess... that the listed
lack of available (by your measure) of basic chemical nutrients
(e.g. Nitrate, Phosphate), show these to have been limiting factors
in the growth of the stated algae (they were "scarfing it all
up")... along with calcium as a needed co-biomineral... With the
addition/change out of the carbon, the "scales were tipped" with a
massive die-off event of some of the algae occurring, this resulting
in a good deal of their death, dissolution... and consequent
coloring, poisoning of your system... For now, you need to do damage
control with restoring present water quality (likely through some
massive water changes)... going forward, you need to formulate a
plan to control algal proliferation... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/avoidingalgaeproblesm.htm and the linked
files in-text and above... till you understand what you're up to,
against. Do write back re specifics if you have questions, doubts,
suggestions. Bob Fenner>
Re: cloudy green water 7/31/08 Thanks for getting back
to me. How much water do you suggest that I change and how often?
<... a bunch... see WWM re. B> |
Brown Algae 7/30/08 Dear Mr. Bob Fenner <Scott V. with you
today.> I have an 80G Marine tank with 2 Clarkii Clowns, 3 Large Tube
Worms, Bubble tip Anemone, some snails, a microalgae colony & lots of
live rocks with coral line algae. I use 6500K 500W (4 x 125) CFL
lighting. I use a 4G Canister Filter, 5W UV Sterilizer, Remora hang on
Skimmer (with 2000L/H separate power head), 2 Power heads (2000L/H), &
Chiller. The tank is running well. I do a 20% water change every
month and feed my fish and invertebrates carefully. My water parameters
are Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, and Nitrate < 100 (I am not so sure about the
nitrates). <You need to get this squared away, either another test
kit that is easier to read or just flat out getting the nitrate lowered,
tis the fuel for the algae.> This tank has being running well for the
past 1 year. I am introducing 1 Hippo Tang & 2 False Percula in a few
days which are in the QT now . I am retuning the big Clarkii back to the
LFS which is very aggressive towards my other small 1” Clarkii. <The
remaining Clarkii will likely pick on the False Percs in time, if not
now.> I have two issues that I need your help with. I have a brown
algae bloom from the day I established the tank which forced me to buy
an extra power head as advised by the LFS which by the way didn’t help.
<Flow is one factor of the equation.> The brown algae are only on my
back glass and on my sand. It grows so fast. I have to clean every 5
days just to control it on my sand. I am NOT using live sand as a 2 inch
layer of white granules (which are close to sand particles) were given
to me when I bought the tank. <I would decrease this sand level to
1” or increase to 4”+. 2” catches you between the easy to clean shallow
sand bed and a beneficial DSB.> I can deal with the tank glasses but
cleaning brown algae every 5 days off of these white granules is a hard
task especially with my full time job as a store manager. <Yes, this
is too often to maintain your sand.> I see so many tanks that are
cleaned only once a month or even less frequent that does not have this
problem. Can you please tell me what’s wrong with my tank? <Not with
the information provided. Feeding, water flow, filtration (and lack of
cleaning), among many other factors can have an impact.> Should I
take off the white granules and put live sand or should I change my
lighting or filtering? <With any live rock your sand will become
“live”. What exactly is this substrate made of? Filtration may be a
contributor. Canisters (really all mechanical filtration) need to be
cleaned quite frequently.> Please let me know your views. If you need
any more info to come to a conclusion let me know. Secondly, I wanted
to know whether two 1” false Percula clowns will be compatible with my
one 1” Clarkii clown. <They likely won’t be.> Thanks in advance
for your help Best regards, Akila <Very welcome, more reading
re:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bluegralgae.htm along with the
linked FAQs above. Scott V.>
Diatom Bloom 7/25/08 Hi Bob, For some time I have been
having problems with a diatom bloom. I have done everything
suggested and can not get it to go away. I was wondering if you
would kindly take a look at this and see if I indeed might have
missed something. The tank contains 2 pair of H. Barbouri. I have
diatoms crawling out my ears! The whole sand bed is matted and it
grows on everything. I have done everything suggested and read and
they just will not go away. They have even gotten to the point that
they are growing on the macro algae in the tank. <Mmm... are you
sure these are diatoms?> I have added more CUC, I am skimming
mostly green brown liquid not tons perhaps a 1/2 cup a day. I seem
to have a hard time tweaking the skimmer so it skims constantly.
<Mmm, there are circumstances where these don't...> Everything
gets rinsed before going in at feeding time and all leftovers are
taken out much to the dismay of the peppermint shrimp). I have
changed my chemical media including adding a new batch of PhosBan. I
currently use Chemi-Pure. I don't know what to do could it be a bad
batch of salt? <Mmm, could be a contributor> Something wrong
with the RO/DI unit as it tests out also at 0.03 silicates but
TDS is 0 <Zero?! This doesn't jive with the silicates reading
even... they are dissolved solids> Parameters are as follows 38G
with a Pro Clear Pro wet/dry 150 sump. I have removed the bioballs
and used LR rubble instead. <Good> The tank has been up and
cycled since 12/07 had small bloom then and it went away, came back
about a month ago along with green bubble algae which I also can't
get rid of. I scrap and remove and pop and they come right back. No
new additions nothing different was done to the tank. Temp 73
Sp 1.024 pH 8.3 lights on 7.9-8.0 lights off (Is this too much
fluctuation?) Ca 400 Mg 1320 dKH 8.0 (2.86) Silicates
0.03 PO4 0 <Need some... I'd limit, or get rid of the PhosBan>
Ammonia 0 Nitrites 0 Nitrates 5 Bulbs are brand new 2 (96w)
PC running 10 hours a day. Return pump is an Eheim 1262 I have
good laminar flow as the gorg.s are very happy in there and the
horses can swim without getting blasted around. Could this be a flow
issue? I have two spray bars running vertical connected by one piece
of PVC pipe that runs horizontal. Even the poor horses have
diatoms on them. I just have no idea what to do anymore. I have
waited...... but it is not going away..... or do I just have to wait
longer? This is driving me crazy. <Does seem/read like you're
doing most all just fine... I would switch salt mix brands, and try
another species of macroalgae than you currently employ.>
Suggestions taken. Thanks in advance for your time and
consideration. Mark <Keep the faith... and do make it known
how the above changes help/don't help. Bob Fenner>
Re: Diatom Bloom... likely not – 07/28/08 Dear Bob,
Thanks for the advice given. I followed all your of your directions
and am still battling these "Diatoms" I for the life of me can not
get rid of them. <... takes time... and from your pix...> I
took out the PhosBan, have tried to skim more. I did the tests again
on my RO/DI unit and found out the membrane although new was not
functioning correctly, now I test out at zero on silicates <This
is telling> and 0 TDS. I also cracked open a new bucket of salt,
and have been using that. It seems to have lightened a little but
not much. So I still have a nice tank but with very ugly brown
sand. I am attaching some pics perhaps I am not really looking at
diatoms at all perhaps it is something else, <Bingo... get out a
simple couple hundred power microscope... I'd bet dollars to donuts
that this/these are Cyanobacteria> you can also see on the rock
the bubble algae. The rock has also been that color green forever! I
was told it is green coralline algae. It can not be removed from
the rock by the CUC. <... too much money, too little science...>
I can scrap it with a scraper as one can with coralline algae, it is
part of the rock. I hope perhaps with the pics you can shed some
more light on the situation, and what to do with this scourge. I am
running against the wall on this one. <Am very glad you did send
along this further data and image work> Thank you in advance for
your time and consideration. Mark <Do take a read re BGA:
http://wetwebmedia.com/bluegralgae.htm and... the linked files...
above. BobF> | 
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Algae wit's end, SW refugium candidate 7/26/08
I know you guys usually like very detailed info but would probably take
a lot of space to list EVERYTHING, especially history wise but I will
try & cover all the pertinent info, please let me know if I missed
anything. <Okay> 55 gal w- 325w watt PC 50/50 split actinic on 9
hrs & white on 8 (sorry don't remember the Kelvin) Overflow w- floss,
Seagel (Carbon PhosGuard mixture) & Purigen & PhosGuard <Using such
chemical filtrants...> by itself in sump, no bio-balls. Excalibur
skimmer in sump about 2400 GPH flow, temp runs 82 in the day & 80-81 in
the evening about 20 various snails, 8-10 red hermits & 1 emerald crab,
2 peppermint shrimp, 1 false perc & 1 lawnmower blenny, assorted soft &
hard corals. <How are these last doing?> Nitrate, nitrite &
ammonia never read above zero, calcium & carbonate hardness 420 & 8
respectively w- minor fluctuations. PH consistently 8.3 - 8.4
Phosphate, I have purchased 2 test kits & used one @ LFS & just don't
trust the readings because the are always about the same @ .25 - .5 PPM
regardless of whether it is tank water, tap water, API Tap Water Filter
filtered water & have even added Tide to samples, but I starve my poor
critters because of the algae, do 10% weekly water changes & use 2 ml of
phos buster per 5 gallon on all water that goes into aquarium so I just
don't know where phosphates come from (assuming they have to be there
for algae growth). Only water ever put into tank has been RO from LFS or
through the API filter. API filter has only been used about the last 2
months but no change in algae level. <... something else, other means
to control...> This tank was a hand me down but even if algae was
present in the 6 months I have had I would think I would have it licked
by now. mainly hair algae & I just can't get rid of it. I have scrubbed
the rock numerous times, usually out of the tank but early on I did in
tank. I need the nuclear option if there is one. At this point the
only thing I can think of is trying a Foxface (would it work ? <Mmm,
no> but 55 is small so I would have to return to LFS @ some point) or
just breaking the tank down for storage & coming back to it down the
road. If that is the only option what is the best way to preserve the
rock, obviously I need to get the algae removed 1st. Thanks in
advance, you guys have been great & I tremendously enjoy your site.
<... I would go the route of out-competing the current noisome algae
with other... grown in a sump/refugium, with a DSB... and buy all this
and more with the money you'll save on the chemical filtrants in time.
Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/nutrientcontrol.htm and the
linked files above... and here: http://wetwebmedia.com/refugium.htm
Ditto. Bob Fenner>
Question about algae, SW... contr. 7/15/08 Hi! I have a 20
gallon salt water tank that has damsels, a serpent star, a small yellow
tang and a few small crabs. <This tank is way too small for a tang.>
I keep having a problem with brown algae on the glass that keeps
recurring. It is only on the sand, not the live rock and covers the
glass. I added a UV sterilizer, a protein skimmer and a new canister
filter. It doesn't look like a red slime, is not hairy and has to be
scraped off... Any ideas what this could be and how I can get rid of it?
Thank you. Jim Hoffman <Sounds like diatoms, can be controlled
through the normal algae control methods, along with monitoring and
limiting silicates. See here for more
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/brownalgcontfaqs.htm .> <Chris>
Help, Brown stringy Algae 7/12/08 Crew, <Seth> Thank
you in advance for you help, this site is the best on the net. My 75
reef is now around 2 months old... After my 75 lbs of LR cured I added
some snails.. a week later a maroon clown and some pulsing Xenia.
Finally added a small regal tang about two weeks ago. I've been battling
Nitrate levels of 25 or so for a month. I do a 10 gallon water change
weekly with RO). <Ok...> The problem. My tank has gone through
the normal diatom bloom (seems to be done). Then moved to green hair
algae for a week or so. Now, it's being completely overrun with Brown
slime algae of some sort It's covered with air bubbles). I thought it
might be Cyano.. <Likely mostly so> but I have SO much current in
my tank. It's actually growing on an area of the glass that's getting
pounded with current. Could this be Cyano? <Oh yes> This is my
third tank.. I had Cyano blooms in both of my others but much more red
color and not stringy) but both went away within a month. My filtration
is the LR, powerheads, and a Remora pro with Mag 3. The skimmer is
pulling out about half a collection cup per day of coffee colored
skimmate. Do I need to do a 20 or 30 gallon change to immediately bring
the nitrate way down? <Might help, but...> I know 25 is higher
than it should be and is the reason I've been doing disciplined weekly
water changes. Not sure how the nitrates are still that high. What do
you think? <That you should read:
http://wetwebmedia.com/bluegralgae.htm and the linked files above...
until you understand likely root causes, paths for possible control
here> Thank You! <Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Some Algae now - 6/30/08 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25456555/
<What a mess! Looks like some source of nutrient/s must be running off
the coast... RMF> PeterC Travel is fatal to bigotry, prejudice,
and narrow-mindedness-(Mark Twain).
Blooming brown
onion AHHH..... Algae 06/14/08 Hey
guys, <Hello!> I'm having a little problem with brown algae
growing in my 10 gallon nano reef. I'm trying to starve it to death by
cutting out my 150 watt SunPod lamp by half a day. I thought I had it
beat but when I turned on the sun the brown came back. <Light is only
a limiting factor if you make it so. Nutrient is the underlying cause
here.> My red scarlet hermits are doing a good job but not enough. So
I was wondering if can cut the lights out for maybe 2 to 3 days so I can
beat this problem? But I do have some corals in the tank...a small Monti
and some mushrooms. By cutting out the lights 2 to 3 days would it hurt
my corals in any way??? <Yes. Your corals need the light even more
than the algae; besides, as soon as the lights returned to normal the
algae would be close behind. I would check your nitrates; I imagine they
are elevated, and try more frequent water changes to control the
problem.> Thanks <No problem. Benjamin>
Seeking Any Comments, Hair Algae 6/11/08 Hi ... I have a reef
system that is one year young now. Water tests have always stayed in
limits (weekly testing & 20% water change: 77-79 degrees F, 1.025
salinity, 8.3 pH, 10dKH alkalinity, 420 nnm calcium, 0 NH3 & NO2). It's
a small 30 gallon bow front tank with: 6 small-med various hermits, 12
various snails, 2 various shrimp, 1 sea hare, 1 each: clarkii clown, six
line wrasse, Kaudern's cardinal, yellow tail damsel, and various corals:
frogspawn, branching hammer, open brain, closed brain, Ricordea, pipe
organ, Galaxea, various mushrooms, some xenia and Zoanthids, and a
feather duster. I use a Red Sea skimmer, Penguin 200 bio-wheel filter,
one Hydor Koralia 1 powerhead and one Maxijet 600. And finally I run a
Coralife 65 watt 50/50 PC for 12 hours a day and only feed every third
day and use purple up, some trace additives, reef complete and iodine
supplement weekly as well. <I would drop the additives, if you are
doing water changes they are unnecessary.> Problem is that for about
six weeks ago I suddenly got an over !!! abundance of green hair algae
(after which I added the sea hare, 2 more hermits and three turbo snails
in an attempt to balance out the system and regain control over the
algae ... it's even growing on the snails shells. <Adding more life
creates more waste and actually increases your problem. Manual removal
and lots of water changes are the solution. Also have you tested for
phosphates? Finally drop the additives, they are just adding fuel to the
fire.> I can not honestly see that I'm beginning to overcome the
algae issue ... but at least it's not continuing to grow (although
there's not much left that it isn't already growing on and doesn't look
like an advertisement for ZZtop). I've read your forums and even done a
few 40% water changes and thorough cleaning of the filters to overcome
the algae ... and it's still in control ! Can you offer any suggestions
? <Lots of water changes, reduce phosphates and nitrates, control
nutrients, manual removal, and patience. It will take some time to start
to see improvements, nothing good happens fast in this hobby.> I
don't perceive that I'm in danger of loosing the tank, as my research
indicates that the hair algae is actually a good sign (just too much of
a good thing can't be great and it looks disgusting !). <Usually
indicates an overabundance of nutrients or phosphates.> I don't know
what else to test for ... or what should be adjusted ... or if I should
be adding more scavenger assistance ... seeking any comment ... Larry
<Check your source water for nitrates and phosphates, these are the most
common chemicals that drive hair algae growth. Keep up the water changes
and do not add anything to the tank that you are not testing for.>
<Chris> Too Little
Algae? - 6/10/08
Hello, <Hallo!> Hope all are well. <Thanks, we appreciate it.>
I had emailed you some time ago about an algae problem I was having, and
thanks to your advice it has completely cleared up. So much so that my
question today is can you go to far in cleaning up your water.
<Theoretically, yes. In an average home system, not likely.> All of
my algae is gone, with the exception of coralline and a very few bubble
algae which I have on the run. There was so much algae on the side glass
that you could not see through it. Now it is completely clear. My front
glass only needs to be cleaned once a week, if that. <Sounds
wonderful...> My main concern is for my Lawnmower Blenny and algae
eating snails. I have been using dried algae and they both seem to graze
on it, but will this give them all they need or should I try feeding
them something else. <If they're consuming it, it should do the
trick- provided you use good quality dried green algae> I could try
to catch the Blenny and return to the LFS to keep him from starving, but
would rather keep him, he is quite a character. <Some of my favorite
fish. Provided you keep him fed, he should be just fine with you.>
Thanks for your help, <No problem!> Shawn <Benjamin>
Re: Metal Halide Algae Nightmare! 6/9/08 Hi again folks (you
lovely, lovely people!) <Hee, there are many lovely people on the WWM
crew! > I've disconnected the Phosphate reactor and tested the water
after 2-25% changes. The first change I used water from the LFS, the
second RO water from the machine that I aerated for six hours prior to
using. I've replaced half of the bio bale. I've cleaned everything in
the filtration department. <Sounds good.> Algae - winning! <Not
so good.> I don't know where it's coming from. The only connection
seems to be the MH lighting. I've vacuumed the substrate, I've vacuumed
the rocks, everything is alive, it's just very green, very disgusting.
I'm thinking of putting the old PC lighting back on and seeing if that
makes any difference. <It will undoubtedly slow the growth, but
still just fixes the symptoms, not the problem.> At this point, I
just want to kill the algae. I'm open to any suggestions. <Honestly,
no new advice. The algae is being fueled by something. Too much food,
mechanical filtration or substrate accumulating detritus, inadequate
skimming, poor circulation, etc. Even once you figure out what is
fueling the algae, it may still appear that it is winning. As the algae
dies off it can fuel new algae unless the nutrients are exported. Strong
skimming, water changes and harvesting your macroalgae in your refugium
to export what is produced by the algae die off will make all the
difference (you said you have a refugium, I assume you have a macroalgae
growing? If not this is a strong tool in your battle.)> Thank you!
Lisa (offering plenty of free algae) <Welcome Lisa, thank you, but I
have my algae quota here! Best, Scott V.>
Re: Metal Halide Algae Nightmare! 6/10/08 Hi Scott, Thanks for
the quick answer. <No problem.> I temporarily put the PC light
back up, whatever the MH helped, I have to get rid of for now. <OK>
Can't be too many nutrients, I'm feeding maybe once or twice a week and
seeing that the fish eat everything. I'm not feeding the inverts or
corals at all during this time. <Current feeding may not be the
issue, but nutrients from somewhere are, the algae is fueled by
something.> I wondered if the PC light (Coralife Aqualight Pro 150)
could bee too close to the water (about 4" above)? It came with legs,
but I'm wondering if it's too close. <The lighting may have in
impact, but still does not address the cause (it is not the light).>
I do have macroalgae in the refugium, I'm now turning off that light to
retard the macroalgae growth. Should I remove it completely temporarily?
<No!! Just the opposite, you want that macroalgae to grow as fast as it
possibly can. This is one of the most powerful tools you have. By
growing the macroalgae it will use up the nutrients available in the
water for the algae bloom in your tank. This coupled with water changes,
siphoning off the dying algae as you go, will yield good results in
time.> And if you wouldn't mind helping a feeble-minded old broad,
when you say "export what is produced by the algae die off), when are
you saying? (Please frame response so a five year old can understand :)
) <Hee, when you start winning the battle in the main display, the
algae dying off will start to pollute your water. Sometimes this can
cycle back into more algae if what is produced is not taken out of the
system. The three tools for this are aggressive skimming, water changes
and macroalgae growth. By growing the macroalgae, you must periodically
harvest some of it out of your system to allow for new growth and more
nutrient export.> I appreciate the help. I'm ready to throw my hands
up in the air as my husband keeps taking me to restaurants with huge
tanks full of slate, plastic plants and cichlids and coos that I too
could have *that* instead. And it doesn't help that the overflow pump
just died. I almost heard him giggle. <Hmm, frustrating. Do hang in
there, this is a phase just about all of us have gone through. Once you
win this battle, and you will, you will thoroughly enjoy this hobby.>
Thanks so much, Lisa <Welcome, best, Scott V.>
Hair algae and Chlorodesmis Macroalgae or Invasive Nuisance? "Hair"
Algae Strikes Again! 5/27/2008
Hello again Crew, <Scott F. your Crew member tonight.> Well, I've
been having a lot of fun cleaning out some hair algae today. <Almost
as much fun as wiping water off the floor!> I'd like to ask a few
questions regarding it. 1. What eats hair algae? <Depending on the
type of "hair algae", you can look to anything from Zebrasoma Tangs to
Urchins. "Harsh" grazers will help. Here on the WWM site, we literally
have volumes about various attack strategies against hair algae. Make a
positive ID on the type of hair algae that you're dealing with, and add
the appropriate grazer. Also, do identify and remove the potential
sources of organics that are leading to the hair algae growth> 2.
Does Chlorodesmis grow in the same pattern as hair algae? Or does it
stay on a rock and expand (like an encrusting coral)? <It does tend
to stay in tighter formation, and is distinctly different in appearance
than most of the hair algae. It does particularly well in very high
flow/high light situations. This macroalgae grows "taller" than a hair
algae does, and is typically tougher in texture.> 3. If I get
whatever eats hair algae, will it eat Chlorodesmis? <Quite possible
that the grazer may take a bite, but Chlorodesmis tends to be
distasteful to many grazers. In fact, it's actually a bit of a challenge
to grow, so if you're getting this macroalgae, you're doing something
right! Well, that's it. Thanks in Advance, Random Aquarist <
In the immortal words of Forrest Gump, "That's all I've got to say about
that! Hope this helps a bit. Regards, Scott F.>
Algae Problem 05/10/2008 Hi there <<Hello, Andrew
this evening>> I have recently had an algae bloom - see pics.
<<Seen>> The algae is brown and stringy, but disintegrates when
it is disturbed. It has engulfed all the live rock in my tank and it
also seems to have tiny bubbles attached to it. Before the brown
algae started taking over I had problems controlling the green
seaweed-type algae, but the brown algae seems to be hindering the
green algae growth. <<Yes, the algae is a type of algae called
dinoflagellate. The common causes of this algae is lack of flow and
excess nutrient levels.>> I've recently lost a clownfish, a
dottyback, 3 hermits and 5 snails over a period of a few months
(the tank is 9 months old). <<Esssh...not so good>> However,
the snails started dying before the algae became a problem. I never
found the bodies of the fish, but assume my brittle star ate them.
My corals are still alive, but I'm not sure that they look as
healthy as they have in the past. <<More than likely the case,
yes, struggling in a tank infested with this algae>> My remaining
livestock are: 2 bangai cardinals, 1 damsel, 1 blenny, 1 cleaner
shrimp, 1 brittle star and 3 hermits. <<Ok>> I have a 24g D-D
Nanocube with live rock and all of the filter media that came with
the tank. From reading your site, I think the filter media may be
the issue, so I have gradually started removing the sponges. I plan
to either replace them with new sponges and new activated carbon or
remove the sponges and activated carbon and replace them with
live rock in the back chamber - what do you suggest? <<My
suggestion would be to slowly continue to remove the filter sponge's
and replace with live rock rubble. This is of course, thinking along
the lines that you have about 1 - 1.5lbs of live rock per gallon of
tank water. How often are the filters cleaned / media replaced?>>
I perform 10% water changes once a week with RO water mixed with Red
Sea salt and Ph buffer and siphon off the algae, but it re-appears
within a day. My water levels are as follows: salinity-1.024;
NO2-0.1; NO3-5; Kh-105; Ph8.2; and PO4-0. My lights are on for 8hrs
a day and the tank is only exposed to a minimal amount of sunlight.
I feed the livestock half a cube of brine shrimp every two days. Am
I overfeeding them? <<Not over feeding no. Just ensure you thaw
out and wash the frozen food in RO water to remove the juice that
holds the frozen cube together as these are commonly high in
phosphates.>> They do eat it all within a few mins, although I
have noticed the tank is beginning to smell a bit seaweedy. What
is the best approach to controlling this sort of algae problem?
<<Do please start to read here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/algaeconMar.htm and linked articles and
FAQ's. The main thing with this type of algae is to lower your
nutrient levels above. Start by doing 20% water change per week,
continue to siphon the algae out, ensure lighting is only on for 8
hours max. More info and suggestions in the above linked article.
Thanks. <<Thanks for the question, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
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Red algae plague 05/10/2008 Hello, <<Hello, Andrew
today>> I have been going over your faq regarding red algae and could
find nothing regarding the use of Redox to control red algae. I read
about this on another website as a possible way to help eliminate this
problem. <<One of many bottled so called "wonder" products>> My
nitrates are 0,my phosphates are 0. <<When suffering from a bad
plague algae situation, its very common for your test results to show up
as zero because the algae has already absorbed the nutrients from the
water, hence the zero reading>> I have 1 protein skimmer running and
intend to add another today. My lighting is a T-5 6 bulb, with 3 10k
daylight and three actinic. <<How old are the bulbs? Old bulbs are
another known cause for this issue>> I have reduced my light cycle
twice from 12 hours to 10 and than from 10 hours to 8. <<This is
good, 8 hours is plenty>> I also cut back on feeding my fish to once
a day. My fish load is light, only 1 Clown and 1 Lawnmower Blenny.
<<DO you use frozen foods? If you do, do you wash the food in RO water
before adding to the tank? Frozen foods are notorious for adding
phosphates into a tank. Its always best to defrost the food, put in a
fine mesh sieve / coffee filter and wash well with RO water before use
to remove the fluid which is used to hold the cube together. You could
actually feed once every other day.>> I do have a wide verity of Soft
and Lps corals. The corals are only fed lightly once a week. If this is
of help, my sg is 1.023 and ph 8.4 and I do 10% water changes bi-weekly
and I run Chemi-pure, activated charcoal and Phos-ban in my refugium.
<<Switch to 10% per week, this will help, and check your source water
for nitrates and phosphates>> The Red algae is becoming a bigger
problem on a daily basis. Please let me know your thoughts on Redox and
what else I may be able to do to help eliminate this pest. <<You
don't mention your amount of flow. Low flow can also contribute to this
issue, maybe add another powerhead to raise the amount of flow and see
how you go. I would go with the natural methods of plague algae removal
before entertaining the bottled solutions.>> Thanks in advance, Shawn
<<Thanks for the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Slime in a new tank! 4/29/08
New Aquarium-Old Problem (Nuisance Algae Bloom in Newly Established
System) Hi there! <Good evening! Scott F. in tonight!> Hope
you can settle my frustrations a little. <The doctor is in...LOL>
I have just set-up a new 70G marine set-up. Have had 2 other marine
tanks before. The new tank matured nicely and I have started to stock,
with just a couple of fish and some shrimp (all from my previous tank).
They have all settled in well and seem their usual happy selves.
<Good to hear!> I have, however, got a Cyanobacteria bloom. I do a
10% water change every week and the tank has been going for 6 weeks (3
and a half weeks cycling and 2 and a half weeks with stock). In my other
tanks, I have had this bloom when the tanks were not long set-up and so
am not overly surprised it has happened. However as it is a bigger tank
the bloom is on a bigger scale. I would like to know how long these
blooms usually last and what I can do to get the edge over it. I have
tried sucking it out, but it comes back within the next couple of days.
Thanks a lot, Jamie! <Well, Jamie- I'm glad that you are aware of
these blooms as a normal part of the aquarium maturation process. They
are caused by excesses of nutrients in a system with immature (or even
non-existent) nutrient export processes. Once the population of
beneficial microorganisms reaches a sufficient size, you'll realize a
decrease in the algae. In the mean time, your best bet is to contribute
to the nutrient export processes any way you can. Nothing
earth-shattering or revolutionary here. Start with continued regular
water changes (your 10% is fine, or you can be obsessively geeky like me
and utilize two 5% water changes per week). Make sure that your protein
skimmer is functioning well, and regularly producing skimmate. Next, be
sure to utilize some sort of chemical filtration media, such as
activated carbon, Poly Filter, etc. somewhere in your system, and
replace it regularly. Maintain brisk circulation within the system,
which helps to drive off excess C02 and keep detritus in suspension for
utilization by animals, or for removal by mechanical filtration media.
Perhaps you might want to try to grow some "purposeful" macroalgae, such
as Chaetomorpha, in you sump or a refugium (illuminated on a "reverse"
day/night schedule with the display, which will help stabilize pH as a
side benefit) to compete with the nuisance algae. Harvest the macroalgae
on a regular basis, which will which will truly remove nutrient from the
system. Finally, don't forget about the most important ingredient- a
healthy dose of patience. Given time, good husbandry, and patience, the
natural nutrient export systems in your aquarium will develop and your
nuisance algae problem will be a thing of the past. You can do it- hang
in there! Regards, Scott F.>
Algae Bloom, Marine 4/24/08 Hi folks, <Hello> I am
experiencing an explosion of green hair algae in my 38-gal reef tank.
When this started a couple of months ago, I threw a bag of Chemi-Pure
into my HOB filter, to no effect. I am also running a Remora skimmer --
rated for up to 75 gallons. However, I just now discovered that my well
water has about 10ppm nitrate and -- you guessed it -- there's no
nitrate in the tank. <Is bound up in the algae.> I've tested my
well a few times in the year that the tank has been running, and never
found nitrate before. <Probably seasonal, perhaps tied to local
farming?> I've also got a Coral Beauty who may be showing signs of
HLLE -- due to water quality, I'm guessing, because I feed a pretty good
variety and supplement with Vita-Chem. <Good guess.> Are the
skimmer and filter media not enough to take care of the nitrate? Am I
going to have to break down and start using RO water? <Filters and
skimmers have no effect on nitrates, in fact filters generally generate
nitrate as an end product to the nitrogen cycle. I would try stepping up
water changes using RO/DI water, manually removing as much algae as
possible during these. With time and a little work you will eventually
work through this bloom. Also test for phosphates which may also be in
your water supply and is also a fertilizer for algae.> Thanks,
Scott <Welcome> <Chris>
Bubble algae problem. Using WWM 4/22/08 Hello.
<Shawn> I hope everyone is doing well. My question is if you have
a way of dealing with bubble algae. When I clean it of the rocks I
scrape it with a knife and vacuum what comes off so as not to let any
float around the tank. But the next time it appears it is worse than the
last time. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for
the help, Shawn <Posted on WWM... learn to use the search tool...
as requested before writing us:
http://wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm "dealing
with bubble algae"... the cached views... RMF>
Algae Outbreak 4/20/08 Greetings, <Salud> I
have been fortunate to have a 29 gallon? algae free reef tank for
several months now (except growing coralline).? However, I recently
tried feeding some mushroom corals and zooanthids with Marine Snow (Two
Little Fishes) <Garbage... take it back to your dealer and demand
your money back... Is this just cellulose? As in wallpaper paste?>
?and Reef Plus (Seachem).? The Marine Snow seemed to do little more than
just cloud the water temporarily.? The Reef Plus did not cloud the
water.? I added 1/2 the recommended dose of each.? I now have an
outbreak of brown algae again (probably diatoms).? It appears most
during midday and usually subsides by late evening.? It's not bad, but
clearly is attempting to gain a stronghold.? My tank parameters are
Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrate all zero, Ph 8.3, alk 8 dKH, Ca 360 ppm,
Salinity 1.024.? Phosphate shows 0 but I do not trust the AP test kit at
low levels.? Recently did 25% water change using RO/DI water.? I use
Kent Nano Reef two part calcium/alkalinity supplement and test for Ca
and alk regularly.? Is? the algae outbreak? probably due to the invert
feeding supplements?? <Likely spurred by the one TLF product> If
so, what's the best way to get back to no algae.? <Start reading
here: Mmm, having log-on prob.s... go to WWM, Marine, Maintenance,
scroll down to Algae...> I have some Kent phosphate sponge.? Does
this material work or just another useless product.? In the future,
should I just skip the invert feeding supplements and rely on tank
lighting (72 watts PC, 50/50) only? Also, I moved both mushroom rocks
up from the sand bed about 3".? Both colonies were opening fully on the
sand bed.? Now 1 colony opens fully and the other does not.? The problem
colony also begins closing up much earlier.? I really would like to
leave them both where they are.? Is there a chance the problem colony
will adjust?? Are they really that sensitive to lighting conditions (3"
move up).? Water flow is low and about the same in both locations.
Lastly, do you recommend Kalkwasser or two part supplements for
calcium/alkalinity control? Thanks Much, Greg <All these
questions are addressed on WWM... go, read there. Bob Fenner>
Low Flow? Algae!! 4/16/08 Hi Crew, <Hey there Mark.> I
have a 90 gallon soon to be reef tank (I hope). It has been set up
for about 6 months with a Tom's overflow box and a sump/reverse
cycle lighted (140watts daylight) 29 gallon refugium using a Hagen
70 powerhead as a pump. Using the macroalgae Chaetomorpha in
refugium only. Protein skimmer is a Tunze DOC 9005 and is in sump.
Lighting is a 175watt 10K metal halide. Water movement within the
display tank is provided by a Hydor 4 powerheads. <It all sounds
nice!> Only additive is Kalkwasser to replace evaporation.
Inhabitants include algae, copepods, and 3 turbo snails. Water
parameters include: ammonia and nitrite=0 nitrate < 5ppm
phosphate < 0.5ppm calcium = 360ppm alkalinity = 9-10dKH
salinity = 1.025 pH = 8.4 morning and evening Problem:
Derbesia and Cyanobacteria in the display tank but not the refugium.
Is it due to lack of flow? <Hmm, no, you should have plenty of
flow. Perhaps look at you implementation of the flow, make sure it
is directed in a way to prevent any “dead spots”.> I thought that
maybe because my pH is so steady (and it wasn't before I set up the
refugium) that the flow was OK. <A refugium can sure work wonders
toward PH stabilization! Take a look at your make up water. Your
nitrate and phosphate are high for a tank with no fish or
substantial livestock at all, especially when you consider your use
of a macroalgae refugium. Unless you are adding something to the
tank (food, food additives) your water source is very likely the
problem.> Thanks, Mark <Welcome, good luck, Scott V.>
Re: Low Flow? Algae!! 4/17/08 Thanks for the rapid response
Scott. <You’re welcome my friend.> I wasn't very clear about
my PO3 and NO3 levels in my last email. I meant to say they were 0
but only detectable to 0.5ppm and 5ppm respectively. <Okay,
understood.> That being said I am using tap water. The city's
water quality report states 0.0ppm NO3 with a test kit that can
detect down to 0.4ppm. However it does not test phosphate (though
phosphorus is 0.01). Of course the best PO3 and NO3 test kit of all
(algae) indicates I need to use RO water. <Considering the
addition of no food to this tank, yes, an RO is a wise investment.
Regardless of the tap water quality, I am a proponent of RO use for
the sake of consistency if nothing else. Tap water will vary
throughout the year.> I just wanted a second opinion as to
whether the Hagen was producing enough flow between my sump/refugium
and my display. <I have had very successful systems with flow
this low through the sump, sometimes I get stingy on electricity and
do not want to pay to pump water up and down! More, 600-900 gph
after head pressure is accounted for, is desirable for a system this
size.> Thanks again, Mark <Welcome, happy reefing, Scott
V.> Re: Low Flow?
Algae!! 4/19/08
I tested the tap water with my phosphate test kit and it was 1.0ppm
and the RO water I bought from my LFS tested at 0.5ppm.
<Not good for RO water.>
So obviously I will have to purchase my own unit.
<Yes, cheaper in the long run too.>
What unit would get my tap/source water to less than 0.5ppm?
<Just about any of the commercially produced RO units will do fine.
Just be sure to maintain them properly through membrane flushing and
prefilter replacement as recommended by the specific manufacturer.
Buying a filter with a deionization component is not a necessity,
but it is that much better.>
Thanks again, Mark
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Tank questions about 2 different tanks... Endogenous algae prob.s/SW,
Piranha tank plant sel. 04/14/2008 Hello, <Hi
there> Tank- 200 gal (7'Lx2'Wx2'H), 130+ pounds LR, 40 gal refugium
plus a large hang-on refugium, 3-XP3's canisters, 2 Rio 2100 (694gph)
and 3 Penguin 1140 (300gph) power heads on sides and back of tank. And a
Coralife 220gallon Protein Skimmer.\\ <Mmm, I'd upgrade> Fish- 8"
Russell's Lionfish, 3 triggers Niger, Humu, and a Bursa all 4", 2 yellow
Tangs 4", 5" Foxface Lo, and a 13" Wolf Eel. I also have a lot of Red
Mushrooms, Button coral, and 2 different leathers. And I do a 30gal
water changes (w/ RO water) every 2-3 weeks. This tank has been up and
running for over 3 years. I get brown algae out breaks, I also have
green (hair) fuzz algae on most my rocks and back and sides of tank. I
was told since I clean my canisters once a month (not often enough),
<This is so... I'd clean them at least weekly> that the entire gunk
they collected just creates more Nitrate, lots. What I should do is over
time keep the skimmer and get rid of the canisters and add more power
heads for more current so that the LR (and refugiums) can do there jobs.
(20gph times your tank size ((4000gph)), so I need 1720gph more in my
aquarium) Does that sound alright? <A beginning...> I do use
Chemi-pure and Phos-Zorb in each filter. I also test water a Reef Master
Test kit. My Nitrate and Phosphate are both low and are in the safe
ranges but they both show up, always have. <These measures of
nutrient ability are not entirely "accurate"... the real bulk of this
matter is being expressed, taken up by the algae and BGA (the brown
stuff)> I also have allot <Won't correct this time... a lot> of
this bright yellowish-greenish sponge (Cecilia I think) <Not this
feminine appellation; though a fave Simon and Garfunkel tune> growing
on my LR. Is it bad or good? <Mmm, more of the latter> I'm setting
up a 90gal (4'Lx18"Wx2'H) FW, I'm going to get 3 baby Red Belly
piranhas. I do plan on having plants growing out the top of my aquarium.
Just the roots will be in the tank. So with that said should this set-up
be OK for 2-3 adult size Red Belly piranhas in the long run? And what
kind of plants besides Bamboo should I use? <Yes and if only one, my
fave, Ceratopteris> Thanks for all your advice Matt Owens
<Welcome. I'd get a better skimmer, perhaps ditch the canister filters
altogether, or clean out weekly as stated... add more/new live rock...
and likely skip the Serrasalmines (too skittish and boring as you'll
see)... Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Question on phosphates & hairy algae – 4/11/08 Hello again
<Hello Sam>- I have been fighting hairy algae for a while now. I
have taken the following steps: 1) replace my light bulbs (have 2x
96w compact fluorescent for a 40BR); 2) got PhosBan 150 and put
maybe 40% of it into a tray in my wet dry trickle filter; 3) bought
more snails (now have 2 Mexican Turbos and maybe 8 smaller ones, I
think, Astrea (?); also have about 8 sand-sifting snails and 9 or so
hermit crabs and 3 emerald crabs. My water parameters are:
Alkalinity: 3 (or 8.4dkh) Calcium: looks to be between 430 and
475 (I find the Calcium tests hard to read, both the Instant Ocean
and Salifert one - am not sure 100% when the water becomes 'clear
blue' ph: 8.4 (evening) phosphates: appear to be 0.03
(Salifert kit) salinity: approx. 1.025 Temp: approx. 78
mag: 1320 ammonia, nitrites, nitrates: test kit says 0 <So good
so far!> I dose approx. 10ml per day of ESV B-Ionic Alkalinity
and Calcium. I have a Aqua C protein skimmer, keep 3 fish (2
clowns and a royal Gramma) and several (mainly soft) corals. Tank is
approx. 8 months old now. Do you have any suggestion as to what I
should do to get rid of the hairy algae (would getting a phosphate
reactor improve the situation a lot?)<Yes, a reactor does improve
the removal capabilities> Also, it appears that whenever I am
gone for a few days (4 last time) and thus do not dose
alkalinity/calcium the algae has a new outbreak (could this be the
case?) <Nuisance algaes have a better/stronger chance of
competing when alkalinity is lower. What I see being the problem
here is your phosphate reading is far too high. .03ppm will indeed
grow nuisance algaes. You want this reading to be
undetectable.(0ppm)What I recommend is that you check your source
water for evaporation and new salt mixes and make sure the TDS
(Total Dissolved Solids) is 0ppm. To get to this level you need to
be using RO/DI water. If you are not already using RO/DI water I
suggest that you begin to. It will help greatly. If you do not have
a digital TDS meter, then I suggest you purchase one as these are
inexpensive handheld units that help you understand if your source
water is OK or not. (nutrient/mineral free) Finally, I would
continue the use of the Phosban, but would change the media every 7
days until the PO4 level reaches 0ppm. Then you could use it longer.
You may go thru several(3)jars of the 150g size before you see
progress. Just remember to check your source water with the TDS
meter.> Thanks tons in advance for any advice.<no problem, Rich>
Best Regards, Sam
Re: question on phosphates & hairy algae 4/13/08 Thanks Rich.
I have a RODI unit and have been planning to get a TDS meter. Now I
certainly will get one. ok, will test continuously for phosphates
and continue to use PhosBan. I also have started to increase the
Alkalinity dosage to 15ml. Maybe this will increase alkalinity a
bit. Will write you in a while to report on (hopefully) progress.
<Good to hear! I would also like to add that if this system is less
than a year old it is part of the cycling/maturing process of the
tank and some patience will be needed as the hair algae uses up the
nutrients. Rich> Thanks, Sam
Re: question on phosphates & hairy algae Thanks again Rich.
Good to hear that the system may get better with time (I have
patience). Btw, I tested new RODI water and tank water for
phosphates and doubled the sensitivity scale. In both cases the
water was almost clear (one might argue for zero on the scale, but
I'd conservatively say that it was 0.03, or 0.015 when halved given
the double sensitivity). Nevertheless there must be phosphates as I
have all the algae. I will take your advice and go through some
PhosBans to get them down further. Thanks and regards, Sam<Sounds
good let us know how it works out, Remember to check the RO/DI water
for TDS.- Rich> |
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