Albino Catfish in pond, winter health question 04/17/2006
We have an Albino Catfish in an outside pond, approx 500 gal pond, he has
been out there all winter with our Koi fish,
<Mmm, likely a channel:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/ictalurids.htm>
after doing our spring cleaning of the pond, cleaning leaves and such
out, we noticed the catfish has this reddish color rash on the top of
his body and somewhat on the sides. He is normally all white, didn't
know if our water quality is still needing some fixing.
<Mmm, careful here>
The red rash looks like it is under his skin all the way back to his
tail fins. He swims around really well, so don't know what to do for him
or her. Can you advise? Should I be feeding him something different
then what we feed the Koi??
<No>
Thanks for anything advice you can give us.
Connie McCunn
<I would not "do" anything here other than allow the water to warm up,
keep treating this fish as you have been. Likely the reddish coloring is
due to environmental stress... the cold, perhaps a degraded water
quality over the winter. Adding medicine, salt will do this fish no
good. It will "cure" of its own accord. Bob Fenner>
Pond disease, confusion, lack of useful info. 4/14/06
I have a 2800 gallon pond with blue light a 4000 a hour pump. A 4 tier water
fall its been running 2 years with no prob. My fish just got small white bump
spots on there nose and fins its on the gold fish and not the Koi and
Shubunkins. I treated the pond with MelaFix
<...>
after two hours some of the spots were gone ??? Where did they go I have no idea
do you ??? I have never added any salt should I ??
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdfshdisart.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Swimming habits of Koi Blue
Hi,
I have a 1200 gallon, established Koi pond with 8 Koi and 1 gold fish. I
obtained all of them at the same time about 2 years ago. All seem very happy
but one "Blue". A few days ago Blue separated itself from the rest. At times
it will gather with them or the others come over to it and hover around
him/her. "Blue" will sit at the bottom of the pond or swim up to the ledge and
sit for a while. On the occasion it swims - it will first swim backwards for
about 6 inches then it goes forward. When it starts swimming forward it swims
at a 45 degree angle. The tail does move as well as all the fins so I don't
think there is fin damage. The only other thing that might be of help is that
the front fins below/behind the gills are partially brown, around the area that
connects to the body. Blue does have some brown spots on his head and along his
body in a horizontal strip shape. I have never noticed nor have I ever looked
that closely to Blue before. Possible that this just may be his
coloring. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Michael Tarvin
<Some Koi (all are the same species) do just have a sort of "anti social"
behavior repertoire, but this one reads like it is "blind"... Nothing much you
can do here in any/all cases, but drop food near its snout, on a regular time
basis to assure it is getting fed. Bob Fenner>
Sick pond goldfish...? 3/18/06
Fancy long tailed goldfish four year old appr. l pound from 2500 gallon pond
stands straight up like man looking at the sun. Doesn't move around much unless
you touch him, then he swims around a couple of seconds then back vertical
again. Been like this for at least a week or more. Other fish in pond does not
to seem affected. I now have him her in a five gallon bucket in the house. What
is problem, what can I do ????
Anita reeves
<??? Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdfshdisart.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Dead fish Aarrgh... ponds period 3/20/06
Hi
<Hello>
I inherited a pond last year when I moved house. There are [or should I say
were :-( ] 5 fish - look like goldfish but I'm not sure, they are mostly orange,
orange and white and there is one black one - they range in size from about 15cm
- 25cm in length. About a week ago my son found one |(apparently) dead at the
edge of the pond, but although it did move when he fished it out, it was
obviously not long for this world and was barely breathing. We put it in a
large container (plastic barrel) to reduce the likelihood of any infection to
the rest of the fish - though I suspected water quality to be the problem -
<Me too>
from what I know of aquarium fish. I really know nothing about pond fish other
than a note left me by the previous owners advising me to stop feeding and turn
off pump with the onset of winter (which is about when we moved so we haven't
had much to do with the fish up till now) and to turn the pump on in spring
which I have now done.
<You hopefully flushed the lines, filter/s if there...>
I don't know what type of pump it is but it seems pretty basic and they didn't
mention anything about filters - just that it may need cleaning out
occasionally.
We now look as though we are about to lose another fish - again one of the
smaller ones - I cant see any obvious injury or illness other than the lack of
life! Not wanting to be flippant - I am really concerned. Would appreciate any
advice or request for additional information you may need. I can send photos if
you need.
<You need to read first>
We have loads of amorous frogs who seem very lively - would the change in pond
life have any effect? Thanks in advance for your help. Also can you recommend a
book on keeping pond fish - I think I need to do some swatting.
Janet
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
Start at the top...>
P.S constipated aquarium Oranda - we have been feeding daphnia to no effect and
have added salt - going to try peas - do I squash them, remove the skin or what?
<Pinch the skins off>
(Obviously talking about the peas not the Oranda)
<Bob Fenner>
Re: Dead fish Aarrgh... ponds period 3/23/06
> Thanks for help - have done some swatting
<?>
and know where to look if need more help. Have done massive water change and
pump clean and all now seem to have livened up. Found a rotten frog at bottom
which must have been breeding bacteria etc. badly.
<Yikes>
We have 2 large fish and one small left and I think that 's probably enough from
what I've read. Anyway I'll keep on swatting and hope situation won't arise
again!
Janet
<Swatting? Thanks for the further input. Bob Fenner>
Hi
Swatting = intensive reading
Janet
<Ahh! Thank you for this. RMF>
Shubunkin problem ... pondfish env. dis. - 3/1/2006
Hello
<Good morning... or later>
You have helped me in the past regarding problems with a new pond. I am in
Cornwall, UK, and I have a 100 gall garden pond, with goldfish and
shubunkin. It has been cold lately with some snow and ice. One of the
shubunkin, the smallest at about 3" long, has been seen to be floating about in
the crevices along the pond edge for about a week. If touched it has swam away,
downwards.
<Likely either from the cold, or more likely from the too-quick change in
temperature. Larger ponds, with more depth in particular, are more thermally
stable>
On Sunday I had problems with the pump not working, and whilst out checking it,
noticed that this fish had sank to the bottom and appeared motionless. I
reached in and picked it out,
<Best not to "fool" with biota in ponds during cold seasons>
it was not dead so I returned it to the pond to see if it would swim. It got
caught in the flow of the waterfall and was tumbled downward and then lay at the
bottom again, as if dead. I have brought it in the house, and left it in a
bucket of pond water, along with a little weed.
<See the above>
It's gills are moving, and it's fins move from time to time, but it has a frayed
tail, and a small chunk of it's face appears missing and hanging off. It just
sits at the bottom of the bucket. At the base of the tail there appears to be a
small cloud of fluffy grey, not really attached and growing on the fish, but
just seems to be hanging on it. I have not disturbed it at all. Not knowing
what to do, and reluctant to stress the fish with chemical treatments I have
used Kusuri-Sabbactisun and Kusuri-Parazoryne, described as herbal treatments to
boost the immune system. The fish is still alive 3 days since being removed
from the pond, surely a good sign. I wonder if you have any advice on how I can
treat it. I would like to save it if I can as it is a particularly pretty fish,
very opaque and almost all over pink, with bits of orange, and specks of
grey. It is at present still in the bucket, in a cool unheated room. Would
warming it help?
<Not likely at this juncture... but worth a try. I would not return this fish to
the outdoors till the weather is very warm consistently. Please read here re
pond design:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pddessize.htm
Bob Fenner>
Any suggestions much appreciated.
Wendy
Pond help, poor English 2/26/06
hello, i desperately need some help. I have had a mixture of gold fish and
Koi in a pond outside i have had them for 2 years now, they have recently
started getting sores in them and on and around the sore they have white, slimy,
lumps almost like cotton on them i don't know what to do cause i have no clue
what it is. Please help
<Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/holedispd.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Koi sickness... env., lack of biol. filtr. 2/24/06
This is my first time posting but I read your site all the time and is very
helpful, great site! I'm having a problem with my Koi which is getting weak.
The Koi is 2.5 years old and about 10 inches long in a 75 gallon tank. Last week
he started to act funny by jumping out of the water, darting aimlessly at times.
But I didn't see any signs of disease, bacteria, fungus, or parasites on him. I
checked the water conditions and the ammonia was a little high .75 and so was
the nitrate .50.
<Likely nitrIte... both these measures are very toxic!>
I do 25% water changes, clean filters, and add new carbon weekly. Second time
toxins went above .25 after I got a biological filter.
<You obviously need more biological filtration. Koi of this size, in warm/er
water are copious producers of ammonia waste... needs ready processing>
I never use salt but added 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons this time to help him (mixed
in water bucket first). That night he looked a lot better and thought he was
just being a weird fish. But now he is acting listless at the bottom of the
tank, hiding, won't eat out of my fingers, looks scared, clamped fins, eyes
looks bulged, and nothing on his body to indicate infection when I looked
closely at him. Also I don't see heavy mucus build, he not losing color yet, but
his scales are a little beat-up possibility from banging himself up. I have one
4" shark, one small tiger barb, and 2 algae eaters in the tank and leave the Koi
alone (unless the Koi steals the algae disc.. lol). The Koi still eats, but
there is something wrong. My cold blooded friend needs your help. Can you help
me?
Thanks,
Wayne
<Only you can help here... you need more bio. filtration. Add an outside power
filter, quit feeding, don't gravel vacuum... till there is not detectable
ammonia or nitrite. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Re: Koi sickness,,, env., lack of biol. filtr. - 2/28/2006
Sorry to disturb you again. I was wrong. Ammonia and nitrites are fine...no
traces. But my NitrAte is out of control. Out of frustration, I changed out 80%
of my water,
<Best to limit this to no more than 20-25% per any given day>
added Amquel, salt, cleaned my filtration/ and biological filter a little. But
despite my efforts my NitrAte remains at a level of 40? (border line) and
raising. My Koi now has something large (bacteria?) on his tail with some steaks
also, I added Maracyn-Two to try to control the Popeye and possible tail rot. I
understand Ammonia and Nitrite toxins but cant find any beneficial information
on NitrAte except declining fish health.
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwnitrates.htm
and the links above>
I hope I took the right steps using a gram negative antibiotic.
<... trouble... in the way of interrupting nitrification... Read, understand
what you're doing, then act...>
But still not sure what to do with my original problem considering I got mixed
up with my Nitrate and Nitrites. Could you lead me on the right steps. I know
its hard because you cant see the fish. But I thank you for your time and
patience.
Thanks,
Wayne
<Keep reading Wayne. Learn to/use the Google search tool on WWM, the indices,
links... Bob Fenner>
Koi with puffy white spots - 2/4/2006
Hello,
<Hi there>
I am trying to treat a Koi in my pond. It has puffy white spots on its tail
fin. I treated the pond with antifungal remedy for a week. It contained
Pimenta Racemosa 2.5%.
<... another "tea" mix...>
The fish is eating and behaving normally for the winter period. The air
temperatures are in the high 50's during the day and into the 30's at
night. The water temperature is cold.
<And hopefully not fluctuating much in the system>
The fish are not as active as the summer, which is normal for past seasons.
<Yes>
Can you recommend a treatment? Thanks, JT from Santa Rosa, California
<Mmm, not w/o knowing what this is, the root cause. Best not to "fool" with
ponds, their occupants during cold seasons (when water is consistently below 55
F.)... I would maybe... carefully add salt here... as proscribed on WWM...
otherwise I'd wait, hope for a cure in the coming warmer weather. Bob Fenner>
Re: Koi with puffy white spots 02/12/06
The salt worked wonders. Everything is back to being healthy. We forgot
that when you remove water to add back the salt. Thank you so much.
Joanne Thomas
<Ah, good to read of your success. Bob Fenner>
Is this Hemorrhagic Septicemia? Sick pondfish 1/31/06
Hi Robert,
I am a novice at Koi keeping and am trying very hard to learn very quickly! My
fish have all been fine since the pond was established about 7 months ago but I
am now experiencing my first fatalities. It is actually my husband's pond
but he is away at the moment.
About a week ago one of my platinum Koi was found floating dead on the top of
the pond - although I gave it a thorough examination I could see nothing
wrong with it.
<Frightening... and, as you know, will know, though all Koi/Nishikigoi are the
same species, Ohgons are typically very hardy comparatively>
Then yesterday, one of my ghost Koi was swimming a little strange - the only
way I can describe it is as 'wobbling' and swimming very slowly near the top of
the pond. However, when I went out to watch the fish for a while it appeared to
be swimming as normal. By today it was just floating on the top of the pond
listing to one side and struggling to breathe.
I have isolated it and it seems to have red streaks in between some of it's
scales on just one side and all it's fins except it's pectoral fins are
tightly clamped. I will be surprised if it survives to be honest. Obviously, I
am now very concerned for the health of the rest of my fish.
They are all exhibiting normal behaviour at the present, but so was Pip, my
ghost, up until yesterday. Unfortunately, with the cold weather none of the fish
are moving about much at all which doesn't help matters. What does this sound
like to you and what is my best course of action?
<... I take it you have not added any new fish or other life during the cold
weather months just present? I suspect the root cause/issue here is
environmental... is this pond relatively stable, thermally? Chemically? No
automated make-up water system? The fish that are in most apparent stress,
were/are they amongst the larger/smaller Koi? Do you have an electrician who
might come and investigate whether there might be an electrical leak present? Do
you have tests for water quality, particularly ammonia, nitrite... I take it you
are not feeding, but what had you been offering? How often? The protein count
please>
My pond is roughly 10ft x 4ft x 4ft. It is fully filtered (by what I would call
a normal filter with a UV light in it) and it has a fountain. I have 2xplatinum
Koi, 2xghost Koi and 12 'goldfish' in it.
<Mmm, just a comment re the last. Best not to mix the two... however, if have
been in long-contact, not such an issue>
All the fish are approx 6" long.
I look forward to hearing from you again soon,
Best regards,
Linhez
<We will hopefully solve this mystery. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Re: Is this Hemorrhagic Septicemia? 2/1/06
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the reply. In answer to your questions:
No, we have introduced no new fish since the beginning of September. I presume
the water is stable thermally - we have no heating system installed. I presume
the temperature is just following the air temperature trend.
<Mmm, you might want to invest in a suitable thermometer... the shape, size of
your basin sounds okay, but if not near "structure", it might well vacillate too
much>
The platinum that died and the very poorly ghost were probably the largest ones,
but that is only by a matter of millitimetres. There is very little difference
in size between all the Koi.
<I see>
I never thought of an electrical leak. The pump provides the power for both the
filter and the fountain. We do also have an set of 3 underwater lights.
Should I switch them off?
<Yes... I would. Such lighting in biological systems is a bit "tricky" period...
Bothers the life. I do hope/trust that all of these (the pump, lighting) are
wired through a GFI protected circuit>
I was feeding them twice every day, then slowly decreased as the temperature
dropped. The food we use is Tetra Pond Floating Koi Sticks, with protein
content of 31%, oil 5%, Fibre 2% ash 7% and Moisture 7%.
<This is a very good food. Please see WWM re a standard/rule of thumb re feeding
and temperature... below 55 F. none... 55-65, once per day...>
I have watched the rest a lot today, and they are all deep in the water as it
is a bitterly cold day but are showing no signs of distress and their fins
don't look clamped. I cannot get water test kits until tomorrow. Which ones?
Ammonia and pH, I presume.
<These are the most important... next would be nitrate (as a measure of when,
how much water to change mostly)...>
What about nitrite/nitrates? If it is water quality, why are only some fish
affected?
<Individual variation likely>
As for mixing the fish - this is the first problems we have had since the pond
was established in June. They have all seemed ok up until now - should
I separate them?
Look forward to your reply.
Regards,
Linhez
<I would not separate anything, or disturb the system period till the water
warms substantially. What "ping-ponging" of vectors occur twixt these
minnows/cyprinids is a post-issue at this point. Bob Fenner>
Dropsical Koi
I've got an 18'' Israeli Bekko whose got Dropsy, she's had this since
the summer, but due to my pond being heated I believe this is what has kept
her alive, and happy, sadly it look's a lot worse, the scales are not only
lifted but red too. She's still feeding, and seems happy, all other
Koi are fine. Can I just leave her in peace? I don't want to upset her by
messing as she's never liked being messed with.
Yours
Jaime Chrisfield
<I would move this fish to another "large-enough" container to ease treatment,
and add a level teaspoon per ten gallons of Epsom Salt (Magnesium Sulfate)...
monitor water quality daily, dilute ammonia by water changes... This might just
"do the trick" by itself. Are the scales at right angles to the body? Perhaps
this is something other than bacterial in origin... egg-blockage... Bob Fenner>
Pond goldfish 11/20/05
I have a goldfish in my small pond. It is around 4 years old. It's just the
common goldfish that you see at Wal-Mart. I started with a dozen all about 1 - 2
inches long. Only this one survived. It is now about 6" long. A few months ago
it started to get a swollen place on it's side. My friend who raises Koi told me
to salt the water. I did, no change. I tried not feeding for a couple of days
still no change. Now it is so big that it can't touch it's mouth to the bottom
or come to the surface for a sniff. It seems to be eating but I am sure it is
not happy or comfortable. I am assuming it is some type of
tumor.
<Yes, likely so... cause?>
It's scales are stretched and it looks like it could pop any minute. My question
is...how do you euthanize a fish??
Sincerely,
Lynda in Florida
<Place in a small bag of water, place this in turn in the freezer...
alternatively liquid cloves (a few drops) can be added to a bit of water... Bob
Fenner>
<<Also known as "clove oil", easily found at a natural foods market.
Marina>>
Re: Goldfish Euthanasia 11/21/05
Dear Bob,
Thank you for your kind reply. Yesterday after writing to the "crew" I took a
longer browse thru your website and found the info on what to do. So I carefully
put my lovely goldfish into a pail of water that was large enough to let him be
comfortable and quickly iced him down. He didn't struggle, just seemed to go to
sleep.
<Yes>
I don't think it took more than a minute before he had quit breathing. I placed
the pail into the deep freeze just to make sure then later that day we buried
him in the garden. He now has a nice stone over his head. We are moving from FL
to MO and I hope to have a pond there too.
Thanks again for your kindness and your great website.
Sincerely,
Lynda in Florida
<Thank you for your kind follow-up. Life to you my friend. Bob Fenner>
Pond goldfish sinking, blowing bubbles, gulping air 10/31/05
Greetings,
Our large, 3-4 yr. old goldfish is resting on the bottom, top fin a bit clamped,
releases bubbles, and every few minutes darts to the surface, pops out of the
water and gulps air, returns to the same spot at bottom of pond. All other
fish are active and milling about as normal. Looked through the WWM website but
couldn't find a similar description. I have an 11' x 16' pond (Aquascapes
system). 25 goldfish from 1 ft long to 3". Just did the fall clean-out as
temperatures are dropping.
<Ahh...>
Would appreciate any advice. I do have an indoor tank that the Plecos overwinter
in.
Thanks so much,
Holly
<Very likely "simple stress" from the clean-out, time of year... and also very
likely to recover of its own accord. Bob Fenner>
Bloaty Goldfish 10/20/05
Hi there,
<Hello.>
we have a garden pond which is 2000 liters, 8ft by 6ft and about 24 inches deep.
We have 7 fish in total, mostly goldfish, one of our Comets has put on an awful
lot of weight (nearly doubled in size) she is only about 6 inches long but is
absolutely huge around the stomach area. <Sounds like she’s bloaty.> She has
been this way for about 4 weeks now. If you could please give us some indication
as to what's going on it would be much appreciated. <Read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/gldfshmalnut.htm .>
Thank you.
<Anytime Adam J.>
Outside pond fish... possible Lernaeid 10/21/05
Hi, this is our first time on your web-site, and we have a question.
We have an outdoor fish pond with 4th generation goldfish!
Today I noticed something on one of the fish.
It is gold in color, protruding ( from under his skin)? or sticking out of
his skin, I can't really tell. It looks like a thick wire sticking out.
He doesn't look or act different, eating as normal. I didn't see anything
like this on the other five fish.
Do you think this is some sort of parasite?
<Mmm, possibly... Lernaea... "Anchorworm"...>
What would you suggest we do?
<Mmm... place this/these terms on the WWM, general search engines... read... If
this is the cause/parasite, removing the adults by tweezing, inspecting all
fishes, using a organophosphate to kill intermediates is suggested. Bob Fenner>
Thanks
Donna
Bloated pond goldfish 10/7/05
hello, I wonder if you can help?
<Maybe. Capitalize the beginning of sentences>
in the past two weeks our gold fish has developed a swollen belly. all the other
fish (10) are fine. the fish is about eight years old and it has recently being
put into a larger pond. any clues?
thank you
J H
<Could be egg-bound, some dropsical condition... I would move this fish into
more controlled circumstances (like a large-enough aquarium), treat it with
Epsom Salt, feed other than dried foods... this/these are covered in articles,
files on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Koi with large open stomach 10/3/05
I have a 6 year old Koi that is over a foot long, kept in a 8x10x6 pond.
There are several smaller Koi and goldfish is the pond too. The large Koi has
had babies twice this year already, so when her stomach began to swell about two
weeks ago we thought see was pregnant again, but her belly has never been this
large before. After about a week she moved to a different area of the pond and
would sit on the bottom all day, away from the other fish. We thought she was
doing this just to rest or was ready to lay the eggs there. But after a couple
of days she stopped moving away when we approached the edge of the pond. I
wanted to make sure she could still swim so I put a net in there so she would
move, and she did. I went to check on her today and noticed some tissue hanging
form her belly.
<Yikes, not good>
I was afraid she would make the other fish sick too, and they were all avoiding
her. She I caught her in a net, she didn't put up much of a fight. When I got
her in the net I noticed a large 2 to 3 inch hole in her stomach. Her innards
are not coming out and I don't see any blood, or other problems with her. I have
her in a separate container for now. She is still alive, but I'm not sure she
will be much longer!!!!!!! PLEASE HELP SOON!!!!!!!
<Could be a few things... an injury from a predator, resultant from a jump... or
Ana Aki... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/holedispd.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Re: Koi with large open stomach 10/4/05
I reviewed that site before emailing you. The wound didn't look anything
like that. It was an opening on the bottom of her belly. It almost seems like
she had a disease inside her that caused her stomach to burst open. Her scales
were not missing, there wasn't any redness or signs of attack (nothing was tore
up or missing that might suggest she was bitten by another animal!) but I could
see all of her intestines. About two hours after I sent the first email, she
died. Now my primary concern is for the other fish in the pond, and doing
preventive maintenance so they don't get sick. Any other idea's on what this
could be from?
<... my "guesses" as to what this might be stand... non-emarginated
sores/openings are often signs of Furunculosis (a condition... generally
associated with Aeromonad bacteria)... Can be very catching, or not. Please send
a pic if you can, take the moribund specimen to a veterinarian, college
specializing in fish pathology. Bob Fenner>
White fungus on Koi 10/3/05
Hi
I have just started up a pond in the garden, 1000 gals 3' 8" deep with
a waterfall fed by an Oase Aquamax 8000 pump through an Oasis 24000 green2clean
UVC/bio filter. I have been given 7 fish (all from one pond) including 3 Koi
of around 18" long.
<Too large for this size system>
I have noticed that one of the large Koi has about 3 small semi transparent
white patches that are slightly proud of its scales. It looks like some kind
of fungus but I am not sure. I have also noticed that a few of the larger fish
are 'flashing' and appear to rub themselves against the sides of the pond.
<Likely "just" environmental... getting used to a new system that is not quite
aged "enough">
I noticed one of the fish do this about 5 times yesterday morning. At other
times they are quite stationary. They are all feeding OK at the moment on Koi
staple pellets and wheat germ sticks.
I have tested the PH which is at about 8.5 (similar to the pond they
came from). Ammonia, Nitrites and nitrates are all very low.
<Ammonia, nitrite need to be zero, zip>
Any advice?
Thanks
Chris (Newport S. Wales)
<Read through our Pond Subweb on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Swollen or loose scale in Koi's side 9/21/05
Hi Crew,
<Sybil>
I have looked over the Koi FAQs and searched in the query but was still unable
to distinguish what the Koi actually has.
I just relocated and transported the Koi. during the move, i lost one 11" Koi
carp from what looked like internal bleeding. I also lost my algae eater (the
species that sucks on the glass, 7").
I recently bought 2 1" algae eaters of the same species and introduced it to the
tank.
Here comes the main problem.
I have 5 Koi remaining in the 45 gallon tank, one 12", three 6" and one 5" on
top of the two new algae eaters.
<Too much fish for this volume...>
1. The 12" Koi has been acting funny the past 2-3 weeks by idling at the bottom
of the tank and stop breathing for minutes at a time and isn't as active as it
was previously. I thought it was in shock from the move and needed time to get
used to its surroundings. Could there be any other factors that might be
causing this?
<Mainly having to do with being crowded, moved, all-new water... yes>
I don't see any signs of parasites, though my Koi's' fns aren't always fully
extended/erect.
<Shouldn't be...>
2. I found that one of the bigger the scales were raised and the flesh
underneath it was red.
<A bad sign... of environmental stress>
It would be great if you could tell me what it is exactly and how i can treat
it. The main concern I have is whether that scale would fall off and lead to an
infection.
pictures included
1. the biggest fin in the middle is the one that is protruding.
2. side view of how far it is protruding from the body. (it was difficult to
focus)
Thanks in advance, I'm looking forward to your response.
Sybil, CA
<Is this system cycled? What sort of filtration, circulation, aeration are you
providing? What of water quality? Please read over WWM re these issues... keep
good amounts of pre-prepared water to make large water changes on hand... and I
would administer "aquarium salt" here as a general remedy. From your
description, photos, it is obvious your Koi are suffering from a poor, changing
environment... more space is needed, likely adjuncts to biological filtration,
aeration. You need to identify and solve the root (environmental) causes here...
Now! Bob Fenner>
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Koi in trouble 9/20/05
Good morning. We have an 1800 gal tank with 5 Koi, 3 Japanese and 2
domestic, that has been running fine for the last 5 years. This morning, I
notice on of the Japanese Koi (Tancho) on the bottom, laying on its side, still
breathing. I removed the fish, and put it in a holding container for further
examination, and discovered it had a distended belly, including the visible
signs of some blood vessels very visible, and rather lethargic.
<Not good>
Water check indicated ph 6.8, alkalinity 80, hardness 50, nitrite .05, nitrate
.05
It appears the fish has a blockage in the urinary tract?
<Possibly the alimentary tract...>
Any ideas?
Scotty MacDonough
<Could be "gut blockage" or even egg-bound... I would treat the one fish, or
even the whole system with Epsom Salt... and look into nutritional
possibilities... Am hopeful you don't just feed dried/pelleted food/s. Both of
these issues are addressed in archives on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Re: Koi in trouble 9/21/05
Thank you for the suggestion. I was able to contact the supplier later in
the morning, and after seeing the photographs, determined it had a tumor.
The fish died within a hour of discovery.
Scotty
<Thank you for this follow-up... I would still necropsy this specimen. Bob
Fenner>
My Koi are dying - please help... algicide? 8/30/05
Hi Fenner,
<Madeline>
Last month my 18" 3 year old female tricolored had what seemed like a
seizure. She was spinning in the pond and all the fish were bumping up against
her. She swam toward the edges and I thought she was trying to spawn.
<The other Koi might have been trying to "help" the sanke>
I put my hands in the water and she swam into them. I noticed that the top of
her head was badly bruised as were the sides and bottom of her.
<Likely from bumping into things>
I put her in a quick salt dip and then let her swim in and out of my hands while
in the pond until she felt better. (They all take turns laying on my hands if I
put my hands in the water, I am very careful not to touch them too much to avoid
sandpapering their skin.)
<You are wise here>
She seemed OK for a week but then died. Last week my 21" 4 year old female
yellow Ohgon did the exact same thing but there weren't any fish near her and
when she swam into my hands she didn't have a single bruise.
<Frightening>
She did look like she had eggs. Yesterday morning she seemed perfectly fine but
when I came home in the evening she too was dead and was badly bruised - same
exact type of bruises.
<!>
I am absolutely heart broken with these losses and fear that my other fish will
also pass. Also I am concerned because I now have only 1 female, 23" and the
rest are male. They have spawned without a single problem for years. Have you
ever heard of this type of problem? Can you please suggest anything that I can
do. What am I doing wrong?
<I suspect poisoning or something bacterial in origin here... a version of "Ana
aki"...>
Here are my pond specifics: 3,500 gallon pond average depth 5' that was built
by a pond company. The filtration is excellent and the waterfall is always
on. I use Algaefix,
<Please see the MSDS re this here:
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=1020010
I would suspend its use>
Kent Pro Clear, MicrobeLift and Dechlor per directions and as needed. I have a
master test kit and the water results are always perfect even the salt
level. Up until a month ago in all my 8years ponding I never had a sick
fish. I give away the fry to keep the population down. They were always very
healthy and the smaller ones only came up 'missing' due to the Herons and Egrets
close by. Two months ago my 23" metallic was dragged out of the pond by a
Heron.
<Bold>
It bruised the body of the metallic and then ate part of the dorsal fin and
tail. I stepped outside as my Miniature Pinschers chased the bird away. I was
able to save the metallic and he is now doing fine but is still a little washed
out. The remaining fish move about with energy and look good. I now have 5 Koi
average length 20"-25" and 4 small average length 6"-8".
Thank you in advance for your help,
Madeline
PS If you feel like responding will I know when you post or do you respond via
email as well. I really could use your help.
<We respond directly to all, post most all. Please read here re Furunculosis:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/holedispd.htm
Acute cases often manifest themselves as your fish's symptoms... I would have
the dead fish necropsied (see your veterinarian re who in the area has
expertise), cultured for Aeromonas... Adding salt may well be efficacious in
this circumstance. Bob Fenner>
Leaking pond - am I hurting my fish refilling so often? 8/28/05
Hi,
<Hello there>
We've cleaned out and restocked a pond in our new house. It's approx. 10feet by
5feet, and 3feet deep. It has a top level which waterfalls down to the larger
lower level. We've put in a pump for the waterfall and a filter, loads of plants
and have 2 happy little goldfish.
Only problem is we have a slow leak in the liner somewhere as the outer wall
(stone and mortar) is constantly wet and we're losing 3 - 4 inches a week.
<Mmm... perhaps capillatory in nature... hard to fix...>
We've tried emptying the pond and found a tiny hole, which we repaired with a
cycle repair kit on the advice of our local water centre. But either that
didn't work or there's more holes!
<Or just a "damp" area twixt the liner and up...>
Anyway, time is short at the mo due to work, so we've just been refilling every
few days and as there's no time to reline it this year, that's our only option
- but is it harming my fish?????
<Mmm, not likely... in fact, replacing 3-4 inches per week of depth in a volume
of this size is likely very helpful>
Very quick 2nd question, sorry - one of my goldfish seems to chase the other
smaller one a lot.
<Happens>
At first I thought they were playing, but today I noticed light patches on the
rear sides of the one that's being chased, where the nose of the chaser rubs
his skin. Is this normal behaviour, are they fighting, playing or even
mating???
<Mostly the latter, the middle as practice... I would add a few more goldfish to
diffuse the aggression here>
Thanks, Allison Franklin (UK novice pond keeper)
<Welcome, Bob Fenner, old-timer>
Koi very heavy 8/27/05
I have a Koi that looks like a pregnant horse. Scales do not stick out like
in dropsy. Swims with the other fish, is active and eats. I'm wondering if it
can't spawn - is that possible? Any suggestions on what to do.
<May be dropsical... or egg-bound... You can try adding Epsom Salt to a
small-enough container at the dose of about a level teaspoon per ten gallons,
and/or drop some liver oil into the fish's mouth... Bob Fenner>
Re: Koi very heavy 8/30/05
Thanks for the quick reply. I have a total of 6 Koi & 1 comet in a 750 gallon
outdoor pond in the Willamette Valley in Oregon. Is it okay to leave the "fat"
Koi in the pond and add the Epsom salt to the pond or should I put the "fat" Koi
in a smaller kiddie pool and add the salt to that?
<Can be treated in either place... better in a smaller, separate tank... Do keep
it covered, aerated... monitor ammonia... Bob Fenner>
Goldfish turning white 8/21/05
Hello,
I have 7 goldfish not sure what kind they are. The pet store called them feeder
fish, they were about a inch long, now they are about 4 to 6 inches long.
<Otherwise known as "comets"... a variety developed in the west>
They live in a 100 gallon plastic shape pond in my front yard. I have had
goldfish for about 10 yrs now and never had this problem. These 7 goldfish I
have had for about a year now. I had one that was losing his color. He started
turning white in spots
<In spots... likely a parasitic disease... were the spots very small? The fish
lethargic, hanging at the surface?>
until he was totally white. He died after about 2 weeks. Now I have two other
goldfish getting the white spots on them now. It looks like, its just losing its
color, it does not look like it has something attach to the skin. I have read
about Ich, these do not look like little salt spots on them.
<Oh...>
They do not scratch up against anything in the pond. These spots are on there
bodies and not there fins. They do not look like any of the pictures I have seen
of Ich. I have tested the water, the nitrites is in the stress level 3.0,
<... this is past the deadly level... 1.0 ppm at high pH is very toxic>
and I am now treating the water for that, but everything else is ok. I do not
know what else to do. Can you help me or have you heard of this problem.
Betty
<Fix your water quality... do you have a purposeful biological filter? Aeration?
A regular water change maintenance schedule? These are covered on WWM:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
I strongly suspect the root cause/s of your troubles are environmental... Bob
Fenner>
Re: Goldfish turning white 8/22/05
Thanks Bob,
Yes I do have bio filter and a Aeration pump. No, the fish is not lethargic, or
hanging at the surface.
I will do a water change and keep a closer eye on the levels.
Thank you for all of your help.
Betty
<Ahh, I see... I do hope the water change/s solve the issue/s here. Your root
trouble/s may be seasonal, from crowding, elevated temperature... Bob Fenner>
Re: Pond in serious trouble 8/28/05
Thank you for the information. I have pulled all of my plants out of the
pond and added 20 pounds of rock salt. I still am having trouble with the
water flow. But I feel this is a pump issue and have purchased a new pump to
install in the morning. I have noticed that the fish I have left seemed to
have perked up a little. I really hope that this works. Thanks so much for
all of your advise.
Sissy
<Very welcome. Bob Fenner>
Koi unusual habits 8/12/05
Dear Bob Fenner,
<Derek, Jenny>
We live in the South of England UK and have a garden pond of approx 1,000
gallons and 4 feet deep. We have 7 Koi (4 being about 15" long). We also have
16 other fish being a mixture of goldfish and Shubunkins and babies we have
reared.
<A bit crowded...>
We have a very good filter system and water pump in the pond and part change the
water and clean the filter regularly. The water is clear and the fish are all
healthy and we have not lost any for 4 years.
However, there is a water outlet pipe which runs from the filter and then the
water cascades into the pond quite strongly. My husband and I are worried
because we have recently noticed the 3 large yellow Ogon Koi have taken to
sitting under the pipe and letting the water hit them on their head (in fact
they almost have their head out of the water to do this and stay there in this
position for some considerable time. It may sound odd, but they are also
opening their mouths as if they are trying to drink the water!
<Telling>
At first we thought it was only one Koi doing this, but have found the other
2 Ogons doing the same thing yesterday and today. They seem to do it after
about 19.00 hours. Also all the other fish are around them at the time very
closely compacted and almost nudging each other gently. There is no animosity
or bullying. In the 5 years we have had our fish we have never noticed this
behaviour before and we spend a lot of time caring for them and watching their
habits. We are now worried. Is this natural behaviour?
<Is... for an oxygen lacking environment... you have provided the significant
clues... the small size, surface area of your pond, the fact that the Ohgons
("sun-colored fish") are affected most, and the time frame of the commencement
of this behavior... What is happening very likely is that with the sun going
down, cessation of photosynthesis, there is a rapid loss of dissolved oxygen
concentration... by virtue of their breed (all Koi, like domestic dogs, are of
the same species), the Ohgons suffer most... and therefore...>
This is not a joke email by the way!. Many thanks for your help in advance.
We have found your website most helpful.
Jenny and Derek
<The best thing to do... either reduce the bioload here, increase the pond
size... and/or add mechanical aeration (bubblers). Bob Fenner>
Re: Koi unusual habits 8/15/05
Dear Crew
<Derek>
Many thanks for your speedy reply received the following morning after your
email.
I immediately tested the water in the pond and it was reading dangerous on
nearly all tests.
<Yikes! Glad you were quick to action>
I guess you probably saved the lives of all our fish, as I immediately went to
the Water Gardens Fish Farm nearby and bought the bubble making machine for
oxygen, pond salt, BioStart, Water Cress and updated our water testing kit.
<Great!>
My husband immediately started a series of partial water changes over the last
few days and cleaned out the filter again.
<Very good>
It didn't enter our minds that the oxygen level was low as the pond and fish
have been healthy for 4 or more years.
<Happens... very commonly>
Many thanks once again. We now have happy fish swimming around normally.
Your Website is an inspiration!
Regards Derek & Jenny, England UK
<Ahh, my twin wishes... that WWM serve as a source of information... and
inspiration! Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Koi Fish Disease...Can you help! 8/9/05
Hi just writing you an e-mail to see if you can help me with something. My dads
friend keeps Koi as we do. But he's having trouble with his fish at the moment
its not like a normal disease though.. we have never seen anything like it
before. About seven days ago he noticed one of his fish was swimming a bit
weird. but thought he must have knocked himself on something in the pond...the
following day the fish was on his back...swimming into the side....acting like
a torpedo when it was swimming and lying on its side on the bottom of the
pond....he got a bit worried and took a water sample out to the local garden
centre to get tested it came back negative...everything seemed to be in order.
<Everything that was tested for...>
The following day the fish died.... this keeps repeating through all his fish
the same pattern at this moment in time we have four of his fish separated in
one of our tanks to stop the his other Koi from catching whatever it is and
to monitor and hopefully treat them.....it has baffled us because we have
never seen anything like it...its like they've had a stroke of some sort......
Could you fill us in on what it could be or any possible remedies or websites
for
information....you co operation would be appreciated because its such a
shame what is happening to them.
Many Thanks
Michael Orchard
<Have your father's friend contact me please... This sounds like one of two
probable possibilities (will be able to tell more...), either an anomaly with
cycling in this system ("ammonia poisoning") or a trace pesticide residue that
has gotten, is getting into the system. Bob Fenner>
Fungus on Koi... 8/6/05
Hello. I have three Koi with an off-white fungus (I think, after trying to do
some research on what it could be.)
<Actual fungal infections are exceedingly rare... almost all infectious pond
disease is directly related to environmental cause/s>
They do not show any other symptoms. I just completed seven days of treatment
with PimaFix in my 1700 gallon pond.
<Worthless "fixes">
It looks like it may have improved slightly, but the fungus is still there...
on their faces, gill area and fins. Should I repeat another week of PimaFix or
try something else? Thanks for your help!
<Have someone come by and look at your system, fish... Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdfshdisart.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
New pond, new Koi, new problem 7/31/05
I recently enlarged my Koi pond to about 1500 gallons, and bought 2 new Koi
for it. Both Koi are 3.5-4 inches. I always inspect all of my fish before I
add them to either my pond or my aquarium,
<and quarantine them?>
and did not see ANY problems at all with them. Both Koi have been in the pond
for 4 days now, and I have been inspecting them each day to see if any problems
were emerging. Today I noticed that one of the new Koi had a bit of a
stringy/slimy substance around its gill on one side. I have never had any of my
fish get any sort of fungal infection, I'm not sure how to tell if that is the
problem.
<Mmm, not likely... probably simple body slime... from the stress of movement,
netting...>
No other fish in the pond have any problems, and are all appear to be very
healthy (2 13" Koi, 2 8" shubunkin), so I removed the small Koi until I find out
what the problem is. I was wondering if you had any idea what the problem could
be, or if it is something I should be worried about the rest of my fish getting.
Please note: 2 days before I added the new Koi, I dosed the water with salt,
since it was a new pond and would be getting new fish.
Any help is greatly appreciated
<Oh, the salt itself might bring on this excess mucus. I would move the fish
back into the main system... but do consider using the tank to quarantine all
future livestock. You can read re such procedures on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Lee Baker
New pond... goldfish ailment? 7/30/05
Hello again.
I have another problem. One of my fishes was floating but not dead this
morning. I have isolated it, in a bucket, and on examination it seems to have a
hard black protuberance from its anus. This protuberance is about 10mm long,
and the surrounding area of flesh seems very raw, white with red edges. The
fish will swim, but when it stops it tends to float to the surface, always on
the same side. I am very worried and would like some advise on how to treat
this, and whether all the fishes should be treated.
Your rapid response would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Wendy
<... impossible to tell you what is going on from the data presented... I would
(of course) check your water chemistry, change about a quarter of the water,
keep a close eye on your other fish/es... and read... re their care, feeding on
WWM. Bob Fenner>
Re: New pond 7/31/05
Hello again.
<Morning>
I have been reading up on your pages and think that I have identified the
problem as Camallanus worms.
<Mmm, possible>
Anyway, I am in the UK and can not find any flake fish food with
Piperazine. Do you think my diagnosis is correct, and can you advise me of any
online store that I can order from.
<I would look for Praziquantel instead, or products with this in it>
My isolated fish does not look as if he will make it, any suggestions on
immediate first aid would be greatly appreciated.
<... a level teaspoon of Epsom Salt per ten gallons of system volume>
Other fish are still in the pond, and all appear lively and healthy so far,
yet I do realize that all should be treated.
Your help would be much appreciated.
Wendy
<Bob Fenner>
Hi again.
The world wide web informs me that Praziquantel is not available to the UK.
WHY???
Should I give my vet a ring in the morning!!?
AAAAAGH! with frustration...........
Wendy
<Perhaps. Please read... on WWM re vermifuges, -cides. RMF>
Re: New pond 8/1/05
Thanks for your quick replies.
My sick fish died overnight.
I will search online for food containing Praziquantel as you suggest. Any
recommendations of where to purchase would be much appreciated.
<Try online suppliers of pond goods>
Seems medicated fish food is not available in pet shops around where I live, I
spent much of yesterday visiting stores, only to be met with blank looks and
unhelpfulness by shop staff. A fish encyclopedia I have gives doses for
treatment with Panacur wormer for horses, powdered form to be dissolved in the
pond. I am considering contacting a veterinarian or farm store if I cannot find
medicated food. Do you think this is wise?
<Mmm, if you're going to this ends... I would take the one dead fish with you
and have it examined... necropsied, to determine if worms are actually
involved...>
What happens to eggs of Camallanus when the fish are treated via food - wouldn't
they be alive and well in the bottom of the pond, ready to infest when ingested
by another fish?
<Possibly, yes>
And would the eggs be killed if treated with dissolved Panacur?
<I don't know... and am unfortunately away from printed reference>
I will splash out on a pond testing kit, and also attend to changing some of the
pond water as suggested.
There are several newts living in the weed in my pond, and I have seen frogs and
toads in it from time to time. Can these wild creatures transmit disease to the
fish?
<A possibility, yes, though, not common.>
I have 6 small goldfish left at present BTW. Also, could any "pond treatment"
adversely affect the wildlife- I am sure the newts eat the fishes food.
<Some could>
Many thanks for your extremely helpful pages.
Wendy
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Koi with a Bump in the Night 7/18/05
Hello, You have helped us tremendously in the past and we thank you. So
here goes. 5 fish in a 200 gallon indoor tank. One Rena X3 bio filter
(largest) one Fluval 404 bio filter (largest). Water tests zero for Ammonia and
Nitrites, Nitrates appear high and PH is about 8+. 1/3 water vacuumed off to
remove all debris on bottom of tank once every 7 days (water added back in at
EXACT temperature of tank and is country, well water that tests normal) and
filters gently flushed every 14 days at same time water is vacuumed off. The
product Cycle added with each water change. New carbon every 3rd cleaning or 6
weeks. Approx. 1/3 aquarium salt of recommended dosage. All winter and spring,
tank temperature was approx. 68 degrees F. Now this Hot Summer, temperature is
pretty stable at 76 degrees F.
Two small Comet Goldfish (about 3 inches), 0ne 6+ month old Koi (about 6
inches) one 16 month old Koi (about -12 inches) and one 17 month old Koi
(measured at 13 inches by floating plastic ruler on water and getting him to
line up with it as he is a pet and easy to handle). Koi are growing at an
incredible rate, appear very healthy, very good color, very tame, not stressed,
eat well and always hungry, etc.
Two weeks ago, I noticed on the biggest one and our favorite Koi: On the
left side, approx. mid of his body (both from top to bottom and from head to
tail) a raised scale. Thinking he must have brushed to hard against one of the
4 large rocks positioned down the center of the tank. Then 5 days ago, he had a
very thick, snow white ribbon sticking straight out of the damaged scale. In 3
days time it was more 1/3+ of an inch long and very thick. NOTE: size
description is pretty accurate. By thick, think larger than a pencil lead by 2+
times.
I searched numerous pictures on the web and it looked to thick to be an
"Anchor" worm and "Did Not" match the various pictures? It also "Does Not"
match a "Fluke" picture, especially of attachment to fishes body?
On advice from local Fish Store, bought "Melafix" and added according to
label directions last night. While doing so, saw the snow white, thick spike
was gone. Went to add it again today as says to do so for 7 days and noticed a
tiny bump of white showing again on damaged scale.
Is this a worm that does not match what I can find on Internet or could it
possibly be some kind of "Purulent Discharge" (called Pus on us humans and
animals)???
< Possible.>
Last Koi was added 3.5 months ago after being kept in a separate tank for 14
days. Was supposed to be parasite free when I bought him???
< Seriously doubt there is such a thing.>
Once again, pure white and thick coming straight out from tip of slightly lifted
and/or damaged scale on the fishes side. Fell off but appears some is notable
today AGAIN!!! That scale appears to be very reddened in color (he is a "Kin
Matsuba" so kind of yellow/orange with the Pine Cone black edged scales on the
top and coming part way down the sides) so the reddened scale/pure white thing
is very easy to see as below the Pine Cone effect if that maybe helps you in
location?
We do not have a Quarantine Hospital tank for a fish his size. Plus he/she
is the dominant fish and we doubt even if we got a larger hospital tank and got
it (water) properly conditioned that he/she would be happy alone??? Sorry, so
entire tank of 5 fish are being treated.
Please help as this is our Pet and means a lot to us. I can pet his head
and he will come up and kiss me on the nose when I bend far enough over the tank
so my nose is only about an inch from the water. He knows his name too. He
actually does not come until you sweet talk him using his name. Don't use his
name and he does not come up to respond. Crazy but true!!! Thank you again for
now and all your help in the past. Trixie
< The summer temps have elevated the water temp in your tank and have stressed
you cool loving Koi. If you have a worm type parasite then treat the tank with
fluke-tabs. It sounds like an external bacterial infection that may have started
with a bump or scrape. Treat with Nitrofurazone, increase the aeration and watch
for ammonia spikes because antibiotics may affect the good bacteria that break
down fish waste.-Chuck>
Koi dying with no physical signs 6/29/05
Hi
<Hello there>
I have been searching your site for possible causes for the death of my fish. I
have lost one a day for the last seven days. The pond is new (about 6500
litres). I left the pond for a couple of weeks before putting the fish (15 small
Koi up to 7") into it. The filter and fountain were running for the entire
period since the pond was filled.
I had read quite a few of your responses to other owners with similar problems
(fish dying with no outward signs). The fish that have died became loaners, not
feeding and began swimming at a very shallow depth and would die within 24 to 48
hours of showing these symptoms. Whilst reading one of your replies about
possible deaths caused by poisoning by weed killers/pesticides etc.
<Or the system just not being cycled... the root cause here is almost assuredly
environmental>
it suddenly dawned on me that my pond design may actually be poisoning my fish.
The pond is part dug and part raised and lined (not a problem). However the top
edge of the pond was finished with 6" wide decking timbers. I realized, whilst
reading your replies, they were made from tanalised timber (for those who may
make the same mistake as me but are unaware of what tanalised timbers are, they
are timbers treated with cyanide). I have made a presumption that when it is
raining the cyanide is possibly getting into the water (not 100% but I think it
is a strong possibility). Of course I immediately went out and took these
timbers off my pond and will drain it first thing in the morning.
<Yikes!>
Could you please let me know your views on this? If you think I am right then I
hope this information may help others who have made (or might make) a similar
oversight to mine!!
Ps. Great site!!!
Regards
Stephen Robbins
<You are correct in that treated lumber can be real trouble... A sample of the
water might be taken to a quality assurance or college laboratory for
analysis... Perhaps the timber can be sealed with something making it impervious
to water... like polyurethane... Or it can be moved, the pond modified such that
water that does come in contact does not wash into the basin. I wish you well.
Bob Fenner>
Koi flipping over 6/29/05
I read an entry in your Koi diseases section from a person called Lorenzo
(page 57) and it sounds like a problem my fish starting having yesterday. Three
days ago my husband changed the water in our pond and took out about half of the
rocks that were ornamentally placed around it. (he removed the rocks because
they had thick algae on them). Ever since then, the fish have been racing
around the pond, sometimes chasing each other and flipping and jumping. I am
very concerned and would like to know if this sounds like a disease problem or
an environmental problem?
Very worried!
Denise
<Mmm, could be that the water change, loss of cover (the rocks) is
over-stressing your fish, but much more likely the temperature and water quality
change has triggered a reproductive frenzy here. I'd keep your eyes on your
aquatic charges for evidence here, and possibly the need to separate, maybe
treat them for scratches from being too rambunctious. Bob Fenner>
Koi pregnancy
Hi Robert,
<Joyce>
We have a 9 x12, 4 deep pond in our backyard for a few years. The Koi are
about 18 long. Recently, one of the Koi' belly is bulging out noticeably, I
suspect it might be pregnant.
<Maybe...>
The temp has been ranging 25-30 Celsius, with night low of 14 Celsius. How
long will it take for the eggs to be matured and be spawned?
<Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdfshbreeding.htm
and the linked files above>
Please advise so I can start watching out for eggs and babies. I want to
take good care of them so they won't be eaten by others before they get a chance
to grow. Oh yeah, we also have many huge pond fish, fan-tailed goldfish too, I
hope they will leave the eggs alone if there's going to be any.
Thanks for your advise in advance.
<Study my friend. Bob Fenner>
Koi problem
dear Sir,
I am at present looking after my sister-in-laws Koi. One of them seems to be
staying on the bottom most of the time. It also keeps going over onto its side
but rights itself.
I would appreciate any advice you can give me.
Kind regards.
Kevin Healy.
<It may be that this fish has swallowed something (like a bug), or has somehow
damaged itself. Do keep an eye on it for signs of missing scales, bruising...
Otherwise, I would not remove it or treat the system in any way at this point.
Much more potential damage from "trying to do something" at this juncture. Bob
Fenner>
Re: Koi problem
Many thanks for getting back to me Bob, I have built a pond in my own garden
and intend to keep Koi. Your site is very helpful to those of us that know very
little about this subject.
<Good>
It is nice to know that if I have a problem I can e-mail you and get a quick
response. I note that you say keep an eye open for missing scales. I have seen
about 8 scales floating on the pond but not sure which fish they have come from.
<Ah ha! Do look about for further signs of a "visitor"... I now suspect further
that your one fish is in a funk due to a predator... there is an article and
FAQs file posted on WWM re these, and their prevention.>
I suppose it is very likely that they have come from this fish.
Once again, many thanks for your help.
Regards.
Kevin
<Good luck, life to you Kevin. Bob Fenner>
Koi health... Mind-reading?
11 Koi are kept in a normal size pond but at the moment they are lifeless and
lying on there sides at the bottom of the pond. We have had the Koi for 7 years
and this is the first year this has occurred.
<What? I do hope you have tested your water for physical, chemical properties...
that you have no electrical "leak" in this system, that you have instituted
large water changes, moved them... Bob Fenner>
Pond fish - pregnant or diseased?
Dear Wet Web Media & Crew,
I have a question regarding one fish in my pond. Since either Saturday (May
28th) or Sunday I noticed a fish swimming upside down right next to a massive
plant in the center of our pond. It's been 5 days and she's still upside down
just moving her tail back & forth.
<Not good>
Her abdomen looks bloated like a pregnant woman ready for delivery. Now... is
the fish pregnant or does it have that swim bladder disease?
<More likely either a type of gut blockage or egg-bound>
A local nursery said it was a 50/50 chance. She is probably at least 10 inches
long & her scales were once solid black and are now 80% orange. We've had this
pond for probably 15 years. We've had babies before... just never noticed
anything like this. What should I do?
<I would isolate this one fish, treat with Epsom Salt, perhaps try expressing
it...>
Is there any other signs that I should look for... either way? If she does have
that bladder disease will it affect my other fish?
<Depends on root cause/s>
We easily have 50 fish. I'm honestly not sure what type. This was my fathers
project many years ago. He passed away in 1996 and I'm in charge of taking care
of the pond. He purchased fish from different places so I don't know what we
have. As far as I'm concerned the pond this year is the best it has ever been.
Ideal conditions all around... you can see perfectly down to the bottom... it's
that clear. I'm trying my best to keep this going since it was my Dad's project.
I appreciate any advice you can give me regarding my fish.
Thank You,
Eileen
<Likely just the one fish affected... I would quarantine, treat it... Magnesium
sulfate. Bob Fenner>
Koi carp wasting away
Hey there,
We have a garden pond that contains 6 Koi carp, some Japanese goldfish and a few
Rudd. The largest Koi, however, has been progressively deteriorating over the
past month and is now looking quite underweight. He is having trouble feeding as
seems to find it hard to locate the pond sticks and so isn't getting as much
food as usual. Swimming is also taking more effort as he is having to swing his
whole body instead of just flicking his tail. He is around 18'' long.
<Some sort of wasting condition...>
Have you any ideas as what his condition could be due to as would hate to see
him get any weaker,
<Mmm, could be bacterial, perhaps a genetic development... If the fish is very
valuable, you could try antibiotic injections (50 mg. per pound body weight,
intramuscular... Chloramphenicol/Chloromycetin if you can find it... three
injections with three day intervals). Otherwise, I would at least isolate this
one mal-affected specimen. Bob Fenner> Pond Goldfish
Dear Wet Web Media Crew,
<Mary-Anne>
I found your site today and have been scouring the abundance of
information you have for some help with my fish. I've looked at your
FAQ's but can't seem to find anything that may help me with my pond (I
know most of your queries are aquarium related but I hoping this is
relatively similar), so I apologize now if you've already answered this
type of query many times before :-)
<Okay>
I have a circular pond that holds approximately 1476 litres, it has a
solid particle pump which feeds a UV bio-filter, contained in the pond
is also 2 lilies and an oxygenating plant, there is also a small
fountain pump in the centre but does not normally get turned on. I had 3
goldfish, 3 yellow goldfish, 1 golden Orfe, 1 blue Orfe, a green tench
and golden tench and a white and red fantail plus a comet. All was well
with the pond before I went away on holiday to Florida. My fiancé's
parents were looking after it while we were away. When I got back the
pond contained a great deal of blanket weed and the golden Orfe had
died. The centre pump was on continuously as the parents thought there
might be a problem with oxygen in the water.
<Good>
There was no apparent marks on the dead Orfe. I soon realized that the
main pump was not on and that is now on again. I treated the pond with
Interpet Pond Balance 3 days ago and have cleared most of the blanket
week, Tuesday morning I found a goldfish dead in the pond, the strange
thing was it wasn't floating belly up but almost looked as though it was
just on the surface for some extra air! Yesterday evening I took several
different water readings as my research seemed to suggest that I
probably had a water problem. The PH of the pond is 8.5 (slightly high),
<Actually very high... the pH scale is logarithmic... base ten... one
whole point is ten times difference...>
the ammonia level is 0.1
<Should be zip... am sure you realize the gist of what happened... your
biological filtration was lost with the main pump being out... the
system went "out of balance"... Coupled with the change in season (more
light, heat) the algae outbreak...>
and the NO2 and NO3 are both
nil. This morning I have treated the pond with Interpet Sludge buster
but I am still worried about the remaining fish as they all seem to be
staying in the bottom and very rarely swim about. Even with the main
pump on I daren't turn off the little fountain pump as this seems to be
helping somewhat. Also one of my yellow goldfish has developed a black
edge on all of its fins and just around the mouth is also black, I
cannot get a good look at him/her as he/she is hiding beneath a rock but
from what I can see there doesn't appear to be any fin rot. In all my
research I haven't been able to identify what this
may be. Oh I also forgot to say that I have 3-4 snails in the pond.
Please help as I would hate to think they are suffering. Here's hoping
you can help.
Cheers
Mary-Anne Clark
<I would instigate a series of daily water change-outs... siphoning out
(if you can) about five-ten percent of the water, netting out what weed
algae you can... and not cleaning the bio-filter... and being very
careful not to overfeed... All should re-settle itself in time. Due to
the plant presence, addition of salt, other "treatment" chemicals is not
advised. Bob Fenner>
Koi disease, sexing
Hello I have a Koi pond approx. 35,000 gallons of water. I have had very
good luck with breeding. I have noticed on one of my large Koi, a pink tumor
like spot on his face. He doesn't seem to be sick, and he is eating okay. I read
some of the questions people have sent you, but I can't seem to find my
question. Do you have any suggestions on what this could be?
<Perhaps a bruise, maybe just a color patch... could be something more
ominous... Likely not treatable in all cases>
I did read one article that in the spring mating season male Koi can have a spot
that looks like tumors. I don't know if this one is a male.
Sincerely,
Sharon
<If water visibility is good, not hard to sex Koi... males are much slimmer,
torpedo-shaped than females... particularly across the "shoulders". Bob Fenner>
Odd Koi out
We've got 3 Koi and a few goldfishes, the Koi always used to swim together
but lately one of them is acting very strange i.e. isolated, very quiet, changes
colour on his lips, stay in the deep end of the pond by the oxygenated plants
and put a lots of weight on without eating.
<Good observations>
we though it they were symptoms of white spots and we did a treatment however
they idea of it being pregnant is now striking our mind. could you let us know
what you think and what would be best to do? thank you for your reply.
<I would continue to just observe this fish for now... as your other livestock
seem fine. Know that fishes are quite different from Tetrapods... dogs, cats,
ourselves for instance, and often exhibit genetic or developmental problems much
later in life... This may be such a situation, or just a passing phase of odd
behavior. Bob Fenner>
Disease in golden orfes
I have about seven golden orfes in my pond. One of them has got quite a back
curvature. I have noticed a second once is beginning to show signs of
developing a curvature near the tail end. Would it spread to my other
fish? I spoke to the lady at the aquatic centre and she said that it is
common orfes as they get older. Please advise. Should I separate them
from the other fish? I have other types of fish in the pond too:
red caps. gold fish Hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks
Teresa
<Mmm, could be a genetic developmental problem... perhaps nutritional
deficiency in nature... Or possibly evidence of infectious disease
(Myxosoma)... I would definitely separate the mal-affected fish, perhaps
all the orfes... Perhaps have one examined histologically if it
perishes. Bob Fenner>