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FAQs about Caryophyllid Coral
Trauma
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Physical and Mechanical... dropped, something dropped on
it... Chemical... additives mis-put directly into a system; or salt
creep knocked off onto a colony... Many possibilities
Use of iodide-ate directly to the system in double,
triple pulsed dose is often efficacious in preventing further tissue
loss, dissuading pathogenic disease. Do keep an eye on opportunistic
damaged-coral feeders.
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Dead Hammer Coral 5/31/2010
I had a breakdown in my tank and lost my 2 HUGE hammer corals, and 2
smaller frogspawn. Tank overheated up to 93 deg. anyway,
<Mmm, my gen. comment here... IF what one has is valuable,
personally or financially, I would NOT run resistant heaters w/o a
separate controller... See WWM re>
very upset about my loss but its been a few weeks, I thought it might
come back and after a couple days it got a film over the top that
looked like a fungus covering it. it eventually disappeared and now I
am transferring everything into a new aquarium setup. Can I keep the
skeletons?
<Oh yes>
It has a bad smell to it but has not seemed to affect my other
inhabitants.
<Mmm, you might want to remove, bleach... rinse... See here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/clnornart.htm
and the FAQs file above.
Bob Fenner>
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Bubble coral detaching from skeleton
1/02/10
Hello
<Hi there>
I need some assistance with my Bubble Coral, I hope you can offer
some advice :)
As you can see from the attached photo it is almost entirely off
its skeleton.
<Yes... trouble>
I have only had the coral 3 days. The shop wrapped it in wet
newspaper for transport
<!?>
and I suspect it was severely damaged in the process.
<... it was shipped, moved w/o water? Why?>
I have since done a lot of searching and now know the tips about
ensuring they handle the coral only from the base, and give the
coral a small shake to deflate the bubbles before transport
etc
<Shaking gently is fine>
My question is, Will my bubble coral recover? and is there
anything I can do to assist?
<I doubt it and yes>
The coral is inflating/deflating albeit in its elongated position
and is feeding - I have been giving it a pea sized piece of raw
scallop flesh at night
My water parameters are - Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0,
Phosphate 0, Calcium 440, SG 24, PH 8.1, KH 161 (or I think about
9 DKH?
<Yes>
unsure of the conversion)
<Easy enough to do the division...>
I hope you can offer some advice - and that the news will be
good.
Kelly
<Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/caryophyllids.htm
the linked FAQs files above, particularly Health/Disease,
Systems, Feeding...
Bob Fenner>
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Injured fox coral 1/28/09 Hi crew, i have a
semi-urgent matter to share with you guys, and hope you could help me.
I have a turbo snail that likes to walk all over his favourite piece of
rock, which so happens to house my fox coral. Today, he knocked over my
fox coral while he was twitching and twisting his shell... When i
discovered it, and re-located the coral, i found a small 0.5cm piece of
it's skeleton break off, along with some "meat" of the
coral. I have asked my LFS for advice, and he advised me to place it in
an area with moderate to high flow to wash and clean the wound.
<With what? I would further encourage you to consider adding a
modicum of iodide/ate here (perhaps Lugol's solution)> Seeing
that my fox coral does not like high flow, i place it in an area with
moderate flow. What are the chances of recovery? <Mmm, depending on
its initial health, pretty good> I am very afraid it might contract
brown jelly disease.... it is only a 0.5cm breakage, but it seems like
quite a substantial injury....help please. My fox coral is my
favourite....and i don't want to see it die! Thanks for the help
thus far Regards - kai <Welcome. Bob Fenner>
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Frogspawn torch coral, hlth. 4/27/08 I
have a quick question for one of you. I was cleaning out my tank
and while using a siphon tube, I accidentally sucked directly
onto my frogspawn coral. I only did it for about half a second,
but now it is shrunk up as much as it possibly can and looks very
odd colored. It is normally brown/green and now it is kind of
purple/green and like I say, it is very small. Maybe 1/16th of an
inch long polyps instead of the normal 1.5" polyps. Is there
something I should do? <Mmm, likely no... but do keep that
little crab away...> About 10 of the heads escaped any damage,
but 2 of them got sucked real hard and I'm worried they wont
recover unless I treat them somehow? I have attached a picture.
Thanks for all the work you guys do, I've used your site a
lot to get very helpful information :-) <Adding, boosting a
dose of iodine/ide/ate would be worthwhile. Please read here re:
http://wetwebmedia.com/iodfaqs.htm Otherwise, time going by, your
good general care should see this colony rebound. Bob Fenner>
Re: Frogspawn torch coral 4/28/08 Thanks for the
quick reply. <Welcome> That stupid crab has eluded me for a
couple weeks now. It's an anemone crab that used to hang out
over on a power head intake, about a month after I put the
frogspawn in the tank the crab moved over to it. Every time I try
to catch it, it just crawls down underneath all the separate
heads and there isn't anything I can figure out to get it
out. I could jab some sort of stick or something into there but I
think I'd harm the soft edges of the coral more than I would
be able to chase the crab out. <Try a small all-plastic trap,
baited. Some folks re-package the "mouse" ones from
large hardware stores for this...> I'll read about the
iodxxx dosing for sure, thanks for the link. <Welcome> I
was relieved when I got up this morning, the coral is certainly
not recovered fully by any means, but it does look a little
better, maybe twice as swollen with water as it was yesterday, so
hopefully over the next week or two it will continue to recover.
<Very likely so> I've been very consistent about
keeping my water quality high, I do a 15% change every week and
monitor all the appropriate parameters, so hopefully this will
assist in it recovering quicker. <Yes> Once again, I do
appreciate the fast reply, I was hoping I could reach someone at
WWM quick enough that I'd be able to provide help to the
coral quickly before any kind of permanent damage set in. <No
worries. BobF>
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Injured pearl bubble coral 1/19/08 I
have a "pearl bubble coral" that was absolutely gorgeous
when I bought him about a year and a half ago for my first reef
tank, a 29g tank. I took good care of him, fed him, and gave him a
home where he seemed happy for several months - expanding up to six
inches above his skeleton. About 4 months after having him (and
only 5 months experience with reef systems) I let a friend watch my
system for a week while I was out of town. This friend made one
vital mistake, and she explained to me exactly what happened. She
had forgotten to mix some ph buffer with the top off water, and so
thought it would be fine to just add the powder directly to the
tank. It didn't dissolve as she had hoped (duh) and landed
directly into the middle section of my gorgeous coral.
<Yikes> I have to admit I thought he was a goner for a while,
but I tried my best to nurse him back. He was completely white and
sickly looking for about three months. It has now been nearly a
year since the incident, and the coral has regained some of its
color and still feeds regularly. It has also been moved into a 75
gallon tank and has been in there for about 6 months. It does not
however extend nearly as much as it used to (maybe only 2 inches at
the most now) and the middle section is very clearly dead. I am
extremely strict on my water quality and there is little to no
variation from my current parameters. I do a 5 gallon water change
every 2-3 days, with 1 ten gallon change once a week. 1.25
salinity, 0 ph4, 0 no3/no4, 0 ammonia, ph 8.3, 79-80 F. I would
love to see a full recovery of this animal, but am starting to fear
that it may not happen. I have given him a whole corner of the tank
to himself <Actually... your pic shows a polypoid life form to
the upper left of this Physogyra> to avoid any further stress
from other corals, and he is sitting in the sand, where he has
always seemed happiest. There is an Aiptasia anemone on the
backside of his skeleton <Ah yes> which I have tried to kill
several times, only to have him reappear (sometimes with a twin!).
The tentacles of the pest do not reach the flesh of the coral
however. <I do think they or their assigns do...> You can see
in the photo the right half of him is still alive and partially
extended. The middle section is dead (I approximate 2 mouths lost).
And there is still a single mouth on the far left that is still
alive. I just happen to have this photo on my computer at work, but
can get a clearer one if you'd like. I guess there are
several questions here. Is there a chance he will ever fully
recover? Will the dead section ever regenerate? <Possibly times
two> If not, would it be safe to cut him into two through the
dead skeleton in the middle? <Could try, but I wouldn't at
this stage... too weak, and may re-populate this area given better
conditions, time> (there is no fleshy part here) Is there
anything more I can do to help him out? <Mmm, yes. Principally
the removal of the pest anemone... See WWM re... and iodide/ate
applications, feeding... the use of a refugium....> I would love
to see him as happy as he was in the past. Any insight or
suggestions are greatly appreciated. <All are posted, expanded
upon on WWM> Also have in this tank: variety of xenia, colt,
variety of zoanthids, Fungia plate, green cup coral, mushrooms,
frog spawn; pacific cleaner shrimp, 2 perc clowns, purple firefish,
Swissguard basslet, 3 green chromis, yellow watchman goby, variety
snails and hermits. As always, thanks for helping with the headache
of understanding how to manage an oceanic world in our living
rooms! A wonderful resource that all aquarists would benefit from!
Josh <Mmm, do see WWM re the Glass Anemone removal et al.. And
this spiffy ppt. pres. re what's going on here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt.htm
Bob Fenner> |
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Hammerhead coral, hlth., beh.
3/31/07 Hi Guys <Hi Sue, Mich here!> Love you all lots
<Gimme some lovin!> - so much information in these
QA's its mind boggling! <Or as Chaz Michael Michaels would
say it's "mind bottling"> Thanks.
<Welcome!> I have a problem with my Hammerhead coral which is
in a nano reef 15gals. I've had this coral for about
six weeks and its been fine then, of all things a snail push this
off its perch at the top of the tank and it had a fall onto a ledge
below. As you can see from the photo, one of the
three branches has since withdrawn and does not come
out. Is this shock? and/or is it dying?
<Either are possibilities.> Do you think it was the fall that
caused this or something else; <Yes, likely the fall caused
this.> water quality is fine. Is there anything I can do? <I
would keep a close eye on it. Watch for signs of Brown
Jelly disease and if it occurs, quickly and I do mean quickly,
remove this head (you should be able to break it off relatively
easily) and dip it in a solution of 10 drops of Lugol's in a
quart of water. More here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caryophyllids.htm http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corldisfaqs.htm >
Should I attach the coral to the life rock permanently (assuming it
lives long enough!)? <Once it either returns to health or kicks
the bucket, attaching it would be wise.> The corals are fed on a
weekly basis. <I would encourage you to soak your foods in a
vitamin supplement such as Selcon, which also has HUFAs (highly
unsaturated fatty acids) and while you're at it take your
vitamins too! More here also: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corlfdgfaqs.htm
Also I need to mention in your photo there is a Catalina goby
pictured. This fish is completely inappropriate for your
system. Catalina Gobies (Lythrypnus dali) are a cool
water species, preferring water temps between 64-71 F.
Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/lythrypnus.htm Your corals are
found in tropical waters. An appropriate temperature
would be around 78-79 F. The elevated temperature will
cause this beautiful fish an early death. I would
encourage you to find this fish a more suitable home outside of
this system.> Thanks
<Welcome! Mich>
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Caution: Falling
Rocks'¦ Possible Damage to Frogspawn (Euphyllia divisa)
3/18/07 Hello, <Greetings! Mich here.>
I have a 24 gal nano and I have had it for three months and every thing
has been great but today some of my rock has collapsed and my frogspawn
is very mad along with every thing else.
<Yikes! Can't say I blame him for being
mad. Kind of rocked his world...> Will they die
<Hopefully not!> or can I rebuild and replace them? <You can
make him better than he was before, better, stronger,
faster! OK, maybe not
faster... Rebuild! Keep your water quality
up. You didn't say much about anything else in the tank,
but the frogspawn may product mucus that could be harmful to tank
mates. If possible I would add either carbon or a
PolyFilter, both would be better. More here and the links in
blue: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caryophyllids.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caryoeuph2.htm Good
luck! Mich>
Re: Caution: Falling
Rocks. Damage to Frogspawn (Euphyllia divisa) and Others.
3/21/07 <Hi again Tyler, Mich here.> Sorry for
not giving the details I was kind of traumatized at the time.
<Understandable.> I have the following in my tank frogspawn,
xenia that just died due to an ammonia spike, <Sorry for your
loss.> green and brown star polyps, <Pachyclavularia violacea is
quite capable of allelopathy.> multiple mushrooms, four zoas well
three one was lost in the accident, Fish: a Rainford goby,
red firefish, and a 6 line all of which are doing fine, <Very
good.> but it's the coral I am worried about. My
green Zoa that was doing absolutely fine and now it will not open nor
anything else except the frogspawn. Surprisingly he has coping with it
more than anything else. <Well this is good.> How long does it
take for a tank to get back to normal? <Depends, give it some
time.> Thanks for responding. <Welcome -Mich> Tyler
Kohring
Re: Caution: Falling
Rocks. Damage to Frogspawn (Euphyllia divisa) and Others.
3/21/07 <Hi Tyler, Mich with you again.> I have tried to stay
alert with my tank but the frogspawn and candy alike have their
skeletons sticking through them <Hang in there my
friend. They can recover. They may benefit from
some supplemental feedings with meaty foods soaked in the vitamin
supplement Selcon.> Star polyps have algae all over them. <Move
them to an area with more circulation.> every thing except the
mushrooms and fish seem doomed to dieing I don't know what to
do <Well, don't give up! You are
fortunate you didn't loose any fish. I'm sorry about
the problems you're having. The good news is these
corals are relatively hardy and could very recover. They may
need some time. Are you running carbon and a PolyFilter? I
think these would help. A well-matched water change
wouldn't hurt either. -Mich>
Re: Caution: Falling
Rocks. Damage to Frogspawn (Euphyllia divisa) and
Others. Follow-up 4/1/07 Hello sorry I
didn't email you my computer had technical difficulties. I am happy
to say that my tank is doing better <Great!> it seems I had a
broken heater and once I fixed it every thing flourished. <Yes, this
could create a whole host of problems.> I have one last question
since my frogspawn has come back out his arms aren't long like they
use too be. Will they grow long again or will they stay short? <They
may extend with time. Glad to hear things are
improving. Mich>
Bubble Coral Damage 4/5/04 While working in my tank tonight I
bumped my bubble coral. A small portion got crushed against
the sharp shell. There is definitely some tissue damage. It pulled into
its shell right after, and has not come out for an hour or
so. Is this likely to regenerate, or did clumsiness just
kill my bubble coral? Thanks! -Ken <while even some hardy LPS
corals are very sensitive to tissue damage, Bubble corals are not..
really durable and resilient! With good water flow, water quality and
adequate feeding/light, I suspect this coral will recover very soon. No
worries. Anthony>
Navigating WWM archives... and Coral Polyp bailout 6/10/03
Anthony, Thank you for all your help. I will make use of your archives
on the site. I guess sometimes it's easier to ask someone of
knowledge then to surf the FAQ's and try and make sense of them.
<no worries, mate. And do refine your search technique for speed.
Play around with rather specific keywords using the Google search tool
for our site... and one of the best tricks to help you find what you
are looking for on a given long FAQ page: copy and paste the page into
a WORD document... then use the "find word" feature in WORD
to ferret out the keyword that brought you to that page> My bailed
out frogspawn had a mishap yesterday. Got home and found it sucked up
in the strainer of a power head. Not a pretty site. <Yikes... for
future reference... place polyps, soft frags, cuttings in a shallow cup
(like a Kool-Aid plastic scoop) and cover the top with bridal veil or
fruit netting until the polyp attaches> I removed the strainer and
removed what was left of the polyp (of coarse it was the largest with
two heads). I was getting ready to toss it in the trash but instead
decided to give it another try back in the tank. <hmm... do be
careful here... without the use of a proper quarantine/hospital tank,
the stressed/injured polyp runs the risk of contracting a contagious
infection that could spread to other healthy coral in the tank. I
cannot emphasize the need for QT or new or stressed animals strongly
enough> The tiny blob started to expand last night before lights out
and was looking pretty good considering. Are these things that bullet
proof? <coral reefs are dynamic environments... many hardy corals
indeed> Hope it will recover! <please do take some pics for
before and after... would love to see you share them with us and others
later> If it does I will contain it as I did the other one. I did
see some small parts scattered in the tank. Do you think these will
grow? <possible but not as likely as with SPS splinters> Thanks
again, John <kind regards, Anthony>
Saving a Hammer My question is to whomever can help with this
issue. My Hammer coral fell on my Galaxea today and it doesn't look
good. Is there anything I can do to possibly save it? Thanks <be
sure the Hammer coral is returned to its exact former place, set
securely (use underwater epoxy if necessary), maintain very good/strong
random turbulent water flow, add small daily doses of iodine to the
water (regular weekly dose just fractioned for daily application) and
observe carefully for necrosis or infection in the tissue. Extra water
changes may be necessary to reduce mucus shed from stress. Best
regards, Anthony>
Is The Fox Finished? (Damaged Fox Coral) Hi, I recently
bought a large fox coral off of liveaquaria.com, and it arrived with
one half of the tissue gone. That is, that it died and fell off. The
colour was bleached white on the areas where their was no tissue. Is
there any way I can feed it, so that it can re-grow over the dead
areas? I tried feeding it, but the food just floated off. And the
"ribs" were exposed. If you do not know what I mean by ribs,
you know how on bubble corals, there are large round plate like things?
That is what I am talking about, only an a fox coral. <I understand
what you are referring to...Good description!> It is at the bottom
of my reef aquarium. It didn't seem to open well under direct
light. Anyway, can you help me out? Thanks, Adam <Well, Adam-
assuming that you are providing appropriate environmental conditions,
it is certainly possible for recovery to occur. Not an everyday
occurrence, but it is worth not giving up. The most important thing is
to provide stable, healthy parameters, and feed as often as possible.
Don't give up yet! Regards, Scott F>
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