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Physical and Mechanical... dropped, something dropped on it... Chemical... additives mis-put directly into a system; or salt creep knocked off onto a colony... Many possibilities

Use of iodide-ate directly to the system in double, triple pulsed dose is often efficacious in preventing further tissue loss, dissuading pathogenic disease. Do keep an eye on opportunistic damaged-coral feeders.


Dead Hammer Coral 5/31/2010
I had a breakdown in my tank and lost my 2 HUGE hammer corals, and 2 smaller frogspawn. Tank overheated up to 93 deg. anyway,
<Mmm, my gen. comment here... IF what one has is valuable, personally or financially, I would NOT run resistant heaters w/o a separate controller... See WWM re>
very upset about my loss but its been a few weeks, I thought it might come back and after a couple days it got a film over the top that looked like a fungus covering it. it eventually disappeared and now I am transferring everything into a new aquarium setup. Can I keep the skeletons?
<Oh yes>
It has a bad smell to it but has not seemed to affect my other inhabitants.
<Mmm, you might want to remove, bleach... rinse... See here:
and the FAQs file above.
Bob Fenner>

Bubble coral detaching from skeleton 1/02/10
<Hi there>
I need some assistance with my Bubble Coral, I hope you can offer some advice :)
As you can see from the attached photo it is almost entirely off its skeleton.
<Yes... trouble>
I have only had the coral 3 days. The shop wrapped it in wet newspaper for transport
and I suspect it was severely damaged in the process.
<... it was shipped, moved w/o water? Why?>

I have since done a lot of searching and now know the tips about ensuring they handle the coral only from the base, and give the coral a small shake to deflate the bubbles before transport etc
<Shaking gently is fine>
My question is, Will my bubble coral recover? and is there anything I can do to assist?
<I doubt it and yes>
The coral is inflating/deflating albeit in its elongated position and is feeding - I have been giving it a pea sized piece of raw scallop flesh at night
My water parameters are - Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 0, Phosphate 0, Calcium 440, SG 24, PH 8.1, KH 161 (or I think about 9 DKH?
unsure of the conversion)
<Easy enough to do the division...>
I hope you can offer some advice - and that the news will be good.
<Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/caryophyllids.htm
the linked FAQs files above, particularly Health/Disease, Systems, Feeding...
Bob Fenner>

Injured fox coral 1/28/09 Hi crew, i have a semi-urgent matter to share with you guys, and hope you could help me. I have a turbo snail that likes to walk all over his favourite piece of rock, which so happens to house my fox coral. Today, he knocked over my fox coral while he was twitching and twisting his shell... When i discovered it, and re-located the coral, i found a small 0.5cm piece of it's skeleton break off, along with some "meat" of the coral. I have asked my LFS for advice, and he advised me to place it in an area with moderate to high flow to wash and clean the wound. <With what? I would further encourage you to consider adding a modicum of iodide/ate here (perhaps Lugol's solution)> Seeing that my fox coral does not like high flow, i place it in an area with moderate flow. What are the chances of recovery? <Mmm, depending on its initial health, pretty good> I am very afraid it might contract brown jelly disease.... it is only a 0.5cm breakage, but it seems like quite a substantial injury....help please. My fox coral is my favourite....and i don't want to see it die! Thanks for the help thus far Regards - kai <Welcome. Bob Fenner>

Frogspawn torch coral, hlth.    4/27/08 I have a quick question for one of you. I was cleaning out my tank and while using a siphon tube, I accidentally sucked directly onto my frogspawn coral. I only did it for about half a second, but now it is shrunk up as much as it possibly can and looks very odd colored. It is normally brown/green and now it is kind of purple/green and like I say, it is very small. Maybe 1/16th of an inch long polyps instead of the normal 1.5" polyps. Is there something I should do? <Mmm, likely no... but do keep that little crab away...> About 10 of the heads escaped any damage, but 2 of them got sucked real hard and I'm worried they wont recover unless I treat them somehow? I have attached a picture. Thanks for all the work you guys do, I've used your site a lot to get very helpful information :-) <Adding, boosting a dose of iodine/ide/ate would be worthwhile. Please read here re: http://wetwebmedia.com/iodfaqs.htm  Otherwise, time going by, your good general care should see this colony rebound. Bob Fenner>

Re: Frogspawn torch coral  4/28/08 Thanks for the quick reply. <Welcome> That stupid crab has eluded me for a couple weeks now. It's an anemone crab that used to hang out over on a power head intake, about a month after I put the frogspawn in the tank the crab moved over to it. Every time I try to catch it, it just crawls down underneath all the separate heads and there isn't anything I can figure out to get it out. I could jab some sort of stick or something into there but I think I'd harm the soft edges of the coral more than I would be able to chase the crab out. <Try a small all-plastic trap, baited. Some folks re-package the "mouse" ones from large hardware stores for this...> I'll read about the iodxxx dosing for sure, thanks for the link. <Welcome> I was relieved when I got up this morning, the coral is certainly not recovered fully by any means, but it does look a little better, maybe twice as swollen with water as it was yesterday, so hopefully over the next week or two it will continue to recover. <Very likely so> I've been very consistent about keeping my water quality high, I do a 15% change every week and monitor all the appropriate parameters, so hopefully this will assist in it recovering quicker. <Yes> Once again, I do appreciate the fast reply, I was hoping I could reach someone at WWM quick enough that I'd be able to provide help to the coral quickly before any kind of permanent damage set in. <No worries. BobF>

Injured pearl bubble coral  1/19/08 I have a "pearl bubble coral" that was absolutely gorgeous when I bought him about a year and a half ago for my first reef tank, a 29g tank. I took good care of him, fed him, and gave him a home where he seemed happy for several months - expanding up to six inches above his skeleton. About 4 months after having him (and only 5 months experience with reef systems) I let a friend watch my system for a week while I was out of town. This friend made one vital mistake, and she explained to me exactly what happened. She had forgotten to mix some ph buffer with the top off water, and so thought it would be fine to just add the powder directly to the tank. It didn't dissolve as she had hoped (duh) and landed directly into the middle section of my gorgeous coral. <Yikes> I have to admit I thought he was a goner for a while, but I tried my best to nurse him back. He was completely white and sickly looking for about three months. It has now been nearly a year since the incident, and the coral has regained some of its color and still feeds regularly. It has also been moved into a 75 gallon tank and has been in there for about 6 months. It does not however extend nearly as much as it used to (maybe only 2 inches at the most now) and the middle section is very clearly dead. I am extremely strict on my water quality and there is little to no variation from my current parameters. I do a 5 gallon water change every 2-3 days, with 1 ten gallon change once a week. 1.25 salinity, 0 ph4, 0 no3/no4, 0 ammonia, ph 8.3, 79-80 F. I would love to see a full recovery of this animal, but am starting to fear that it may not happen. I have given him a whole corner of the tank to himself <Actually... your pic shows a polypoid life form to the upper left of this Physogyra> to avoid any further stress from other corals, and he is sitting in the sand, where he has always seemed happiest. There is an Aiptasia anemone on the backside of his skeleton <Ah yes> which I have tried to kill several times, only to have him reappear (sometimes with a twin!). The tentacles of the pest do not reach the flesh of the coral however. <I do think they or their assigns do...> You can see in the photo the right half of him is still alive and partially extended. The middle section is dead (I approximate 2 mouths lost). And there is still a single mouth on the far left that is still alive. I just happen to have this photo on my computer at work, but can get a clearer one if you'd like.  I guess there are several questions here. Is there a chance he will ever fully recover? Will the dead section ever regenerate? <Possibly times two> If not, would it be safe to cut him into two through the dead skeleton in the middle? <Could try, but I wouldn't at this stage... too weak, and may re-populate this area given better conditions, time> (there is no fleshy part here) Is there anything more I can do to help him out? <Mmm, yes. Principally the removal of the pest anemone... See WWM re... and iodide/ate applications, feeding... the use of a refugium....> I would love to see him as happy as he was in the past. Any insight or suggestions are greatly appreciated. <All are posted, expanded upon on WWM> Also have in this tank: variety of xenia, colt, variety of zoanthids, Fungia plate, green cup coral, mushrooms, frog spawn; pacific cleaner shrimp, 2 perc clowns, purple firefish, Swissguard basslet, 3 green chromis, yellow watchman goby, variety snails and hermits. As always, thanks for helping with the headache of understanding how to manage an oceanic world in our living rooms! A wonderful resource that all aquarists would benefit from! Josh <Mmm, do see WWM re the Glass Anemone removal et al.. And this spiffy ppt. pres. re what's going on here: http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt.htm
Bob Fenner>

Hammerhead coral, hlth., beh.    3/31/07 Hi Guys <Hi Sue, Mich here!> Love you all lots <Gimme some lovin!> - so  much information in these QA's its mind boggling! <Or as Chaz Michael Michaels would say it's "mind bottling"> Thanks.   <Welcome!> I have a problem with my Hammerhead coral which is in a nano reef 15gals.  I've had this coral for about six weeks and its been fine then, of all things a snail push this off its perch at the top of the tank and it had a fall onto a ledge below.   As you can see from the photo, one of the three branches has since withdrawn and does not come out.  Is this shock? and/or is it dying?   <Either are possibilities.> Do you think it was the fall that caused this or something else; <Yes, likely the fall caused this.> water quality is fine. Is there anything I can do? <I would keep a close eye on it.  Watch for signs of Brown Jelly disease and if it occurs, quickly and I do mean quickly, remove this head (you should be able to break it off relatively easily) and dip it in a solution of 10 drops of Lugol's in a quart of water.  More here:   http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caryophyllids.htm http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corldisfaqs.htm  > Should I attach the coral to the life rock permanently (assuming it lives long enough!)? <Once it either returns to health or kicks the bucket, attaching it would be wise.> The corals are fed on a weekly basis. <I would encourage you to soak your foods in a vitamin supplement such as Selcon, which also has HUFAs (highly unsaturated fatty acids) and while you're at it take your vitamins too!   More here also: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corlfdgfaqs.htm   Also I need to mention in your photo there is a Catalina goby pictured.  This fish is completely inappropriate for your system.  Catalina Gobies (Lythrypnus dali) are a cool water species, preferring water temps between 64-71 F.   Please read here:   http://www.wetwebmedia.com/lythrypnus.htm Your corals are found in tropical waters.  An appropriate temperature would be around 78-79 F.  The elevated temperature will cause this beautiful fish an early death.  I would encourage you to find this fish a more suitable home outside of this system.> Thanks
<Welcome!  Mich>

Caution:  Falling Rocks'¦ Possible Damage to Frogspawn (Euphyllia divisa)   3/18/07 Hello, <Greetings!  Mich here.> I have a 24 gal nano and I have had it for three months and every thing has been great but today some of my rock has collapsed and my frogspawn is very mad along with every thing else. <Yikes!  Can't say I blame him for being mad.  Kind of rocked his world...> Will they die <Hopefully not!> or can I rebuild and replace them? <You can make him better than he was before, better, stronger, faster!  OK, maybe not faster...  Rebuild!  Keep your water quality up.  You didn't say much about anything else in the tank, but the frogspawn may product mucus that could be harmful to tank mates.  If possible I would add either carbon or a PolyFilter, both would be better.  More here and the links in blue:  http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caryophyllids.htm   http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caryoeuph2.htm Good luck!  Mich>
Re: Caution:  Falling Rocks. Damage to Frogspawn (Euphyllia divisa) and Others.   3/21/07
<Hi again Tyler, Mich here.> Sorry for not giving the details I was kind of traumatized at the time. <Understandable.> I have the following in my tank frogspawn, xenia that just died due to an ammonia spike, <Sorry for your loss.> green and brown star polyps, <Pachyclavularia violacea is quite capable of allelopathy.> multiple mushrooms, four zoas well three one was lost in the accident,  Fish: a Rainford goby, red firefish, and a 6 line all of which are doing fine, <Very good.> but it's the coral I am worried about.  My green Zoa that was doing absolutely fine and now it will not open nor anything else except the frogspawn. Surprisingly he has coping with it more than anything else. <Well this is good.> How long does it take for a tank to get back to normal? <Depends, give it some time.> Thanks for responding. <Welcome  -Mich> Tyler Kohring   
Re: Caution:  Falling Rocks. Damage to Frogspawn (Euphyllia divisa) and Others.   3/21/07
<Hi Tyler, Mich with you again.> I have tried to stay alert with my tank but the frogspawn and candy alike have their skeletons sticking through them <Hang in there my friend.  They can recover.  They may benefit from some supplemental feedings with meaty foods soaked in the vitamin supplement Selcon.> Star polyps have algae all over them. <Move them to an area with more circulation.> every thing except the mushrooms and fish seem doomed to dieing I don't know what to do   <Well, don't give up!  You are fortunate you didn't loose any fish.  I'm sorry about the problems you're having.  The good news is these corals are relatively hardy and could very recover.  They may need some time.  Are you running carbon and a PolyFilter? I think these would help.  A well-matched water change wouldn't hurt either.  -Mich>
Re: Caution:  Falling Rocks. Damage to Frogspawn (Euphyllia divisa) and Others.  Follow-up   4/1/07
Hello sorry I didn't email you my computer had technical difficulties. I am happy to say that my tank is doing better <Great!> it seems I had a broken heater and once I fixed it every thing flourished. <Yes, this could create a whole host of problems.> I have one last question since my frogspawn has come back out his arms aren't long like they use too be. Will they grow long again or will they stay short? <They may extend with time.  Glad to hear things are improving.  Mich>

Bubble Coral Damage 4/5/04 While working in my tank tonight I bumped my bubble coral.  A small portion got crushed against the sharp shell. There is definitely some tissue damage. It pulled into its shell right after, and has not come out for an hour or so.  Is this likely to regenerate, or did clumsiness just kill my bubble coral?  Thanks! -Ken <while even some hardy LPS corals are very sensitive to tissue damage, Bubble corals are not.. really durable and resilient! With good water flow, water quality and adequate feeding/light, I suspect this coral will recover very soon. No worries. Anthony>  

Navigating WWM archives... and Coral Polyp bailout 6/10/03 Anthony, Thank you for all your help. I will make use of your archives on the site. I guess sometimes it's easier to ask someone of knowledge then to surf the FAQ's and try and make sense of them. <no worries, mate. And do refine your search technique for speed. Play around with rather specific keywords using the Google search tool for our site... and one of the best tricks to help you find what you are looking for on a given long FAQ page: copy and paste the page into a WORD document... then use the "find word" feature in WORD to ferret out the keyword that brought you to that page> My bailed out frogspawn had a mishap yesterday. Got home and found it sucked up in the strainer of a power head. Not a pretty site. <Yikes... for future reference... place polyps, soft frags, cuttings in a shallow cup (like a Kool-Aid plastic scoop) and cover the top with bridal veil or fruit netting until the polyp attaches> I removed the strainer and removed what was left of the polyp (of coarse it was the largest with two heads). I was getting ready to toss it in the trash but instead decided to give it another try back in the tank. <hmm... do be careful here... without the use of a proper quarantine/hospital tank, the stressed/injured polyp runs the risk of contracting a contagious infection that could spread to other healthy coral in the tank. I cannot emphasize the need for QT or new or stressed animals strongly enough> The tiny blob started to expand last night before lights out and was looking pretty good considering. Are these things that bullet proof? <coral reefs are dynamic environments... many hardy corals indeed> Hope it will recover! <please do take some pics for before and after... would love to see you share them with us and others later> If it does I will contain it as I did the other one. I did see some small parts scattered in the tank. Do you think these will grow? <possible but not as likely as with SPS splinters> Thanks again, John <kind regards, Anthony>

Saving a Hammer My question is to whomever can help with this issue. My Hammer coral fell on my Galaxea today and it doesn't look good. Is there anything I can do to possibly save it? Thanks <be sure the Hammer coral is returned to its exact former place, set securely (use underwater epoxy if necessary), maintain very good/strong random turbulent water flow, add small daily doses of iodine to the water (regular weekly dose just fractioned for daily application) and observe carefully for necrosis or infection in the tissue. Extra water changes may be necessary to reduce mucus shed from stress. Best regards, Anthony>

Is The Fox Finished? (Damaged Fox Coral) Hi, I recently bought a large fox coral off of liveaquaria.com, and it arrived with one half of the tissue gone. That is, that it died and fell off. The colour was bleached white on the areas where their was no tissue. Is there any way I can feed it, so that it can re-grow over the dead areas? I tried feeding it, but the food just floated off. And the "ribs" were exposed. If you do not know what I mean by ribs, you know how on bubble corals, there are large round plate like things? That is what I am talking about, only an a fox coral. <I understand what you are referring to...Good description!> It is at the bottom of my reef aquarium. It didn't seem to open well under direct light. Anyway, can you help me out? Thanks, Adam <Well, Adam- assuming that you are providing appropriate environmental conditions, it is certainly possible for recovery to occur. Not an everyday occurrence, but it is worth not giving up. The most important thing is to provide stable, healthy parameters, and feed as often as possible. Don't give up yet! Regards, Scott F>

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