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FAQs about Giant Clam Disease, Pests & Predators
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Related Articles:
Got Tridacna? A beginner's guide to keeping Tridacnid clams
by
Laurie Smith,
Example Chapter from
NMA Reef Invertebrates book, on Giant Clams, Tridacnids,
A Brief
Guide to the Selection and Placement of Tridacnid Clams by Barry Neigut,
Bivalves,
Mollusks,
Lighting Marine Invertebrates,
Related FAQs: Tridacnid
Disease 2, Tridacnid Disease 3,
Tridacnid Health 4,
Tridacnid Health 5, & Pest Snails (Pyramidellids...),
Tridacnid Identification,
Tridacnid Selection, Tridacnid
Compatibility, Tridacnid Systems, Tridacnid
Lighting, Tridacnid Placement, Tridacnid
Feeding, Tridacnid Reproduction, Tridacnids
1, Tridacnids 2, Tridacnids
3, Tridacnids 4, Tridacnid Clam Business, Bivalves,
Bivalves 2,
Lighting
Marine Invertebrates,
Pyramidellid snails... trouble
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Predatory Polyclad flatworm 6/7/03
Hey guys,
<cheers, mate>
I've been trying to find out what this thing is for about a month now with
no luck.
<no worries... an easy ID>
The first sighting was by my wife as she walked out of the bathroom and
saw it on the glass. She woke me up and I took some pictures of
it thinking it was some kind of sea slug.
<actually a true flatworm>
Since my tank was cycling I was sure that my water conditions would kill
it. About 3 weeks later we returned home late
at night, and for some reason I decided to turn the tank lights on to see
if there were any nocturnal hitch hikers that I didn't know about (bristle
worms, mantis shrimp and stuff like that). I saw this thing
again, but it was much smaller, about half to one-third the size of the
first one I saw.
<could be the same one... color is paling, and it is slowly starving to
death. Such flatworms have very specific predatory diets in the wild>
I took some more pictures as it crawled into a hole in my live rock.
Someone suggested it is a Polyclad flatworm.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Kevin
<yep... I took a series of photographs of a very similar looking worm
for our new Reef Invertebrates books. This species preys on Tridacnid
clams and actually resembles the mantle of a T. squamosa. It needs to be
removed. See attached pic. Kind regards, Anthony> |
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Bristle worm compatibility
Hello,
<Hi there>
I have a 10 gall nano reef tank, and I was reading on your killer site that
Bristle worms show no harm to corals of any kind only decaying corals that are
fading away.
<Mmm, I would say, "most">
But I did not read anything on clams. Are they safe as well?
<Actually... about the same situation... there are incidences of large or many
small polychaetes "attacking" both cnidarians and tridacnids... that didn't
appear ill, dying>
Because I don't want to kill these cool looking worms when I read that they are
great for my little ecosystem along with my pods.
Thanks for your time!
<In such a small tank, I don't think you'll have a problem... but this size
system is also too small for a Tridacnid IMO. Bob Fenner>
| Pinched Mantle: What is called "Pinched Mantle" in tridacnids is caused by "a
protozoa" according to Barry Neigut. He has found that a good rinsing
(while shaking) afflicted clams in pH adjusted freshwater for a minute
usually effects a lasting cure. |
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Clam killer on the loose - 1/17/05
Guys (and girls?), <We do have quite a few men and women helping out
here....thank goodness!>
First off, your web site has to have the most information on saltwater stuff in
the whole internet.<Totally agree with this statement and I would like to add
that it is a totally free resource paid for by Robert Fenner and our sponsors.
Websites are not free but he pays for this out of his own pocket. Also, let's
not forget that the people who volunteer pay for it with the time they donate.
We should also thank our sponsors. To keep this site free we would not be
anywhere without their grand advertising monies. Lastly but not least of all,
you the collective readership. Without the questions, retorts, challenges,
donations (time and/or money), and suggestions, we would but merely exist on the
web! Thanks to everyone.> If there is another site I've not found it. Thank you
for your time that you donate! <Maybe you could donate your time too??? We are
always looking for a new volunteer or two =)>
On to the question. I had a Crocea clam (6") Super Colored from Live Aquaria
that lived on the sand and it was beautiful. <Crocea clams are gorgeous but also
happen to be the least hardy and most sensitive to many environmental
changes, in my opinion.> I had it for about 6 months and then one day I noticed
what looked to be a white fleshy chunk laying on the sand behind the clam.
<Sounds like the foot was severed off. (Yep, clams have a muscular foot for
adhering to rocks and whatnot)> It appeared to have come from the back side of
the clam <Underneath actually> and I found that I was able to look through the
clam where as I was not able to before. <So sorry to hear about this. I have
heard they will develop a new foot but that is usually in ideal conditions. Too
many predators to enter through the gaping hole left behind after the foot is
missing, though> After another week or so the clam regretfully died (much to the
joy of the hermit crabs and snails). <No kidding. Have had this happen twice in
four years and the animals seem to rejoice and revel in such sorrow so to speak>
At the time I chalked it up to "natural" causes (poor animal husbandry?).
<Possible but does seem to happen more often with this species of clam> After
about 3 months I got another clam (unknown type, not crocea, about 3") because
it came with a rock I wanted. <Hmmmm> This was about 4 weeks ago, it did not
live on the sand bed but up on the rocks. <Sounds like it could be a maxima>
Anyway, I looked in my tank this afternoon when I went home on lunch and seen
another one of those white fleshy chunks on the bottom of my tank beneath where
my clam is. <Weird, So something bored through the rock to get at the foot??> To
say that I am worried is an understatement. <Understood. I don't even know you
or your clam and I am extremely concerned. Not the least of which the Tridacnids
are very expensive animal.> I was miserable when my first clam died and I hate
for my second or any others to die also. <Understood>
My tank is a 75 gal with overflow to 29 gal sump. <Very good. Do you
quarantine?> I have almost pristine water conditions. <Says you. Do you
continually test for said pristine conditions? What do you base this on? Just
curious, as I know nothing of your water conditions or your skill as a hobbyist.
You can pretty much find ideal water conditions on our site if any are in
question =) See here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/cav1i3/Clam_care/Clam_care.htm this was
written by our friend Barry Neigut of Clamsdirect.com. I personally buy all my
clams from him. A wonderful resource and a super guy to boot.> In my tank I have
had the following during both incidents: 1 yellow Tank, <Tang? No problems> 1 3
stripe Damsel, <Nope. He would likely be OK> 1 blue devil Damsel, <Great little
fish. Likely not the culprit> 1 coral banded shrimp, <Hmmmm....probably not but
might keep an eye> 2 cleaner shrimp, <Nope. Fine> 1 horseshoe crab, <Cool. Love
those little bugs> 1 orange sand sifting snail, <No worries> many hermit crabs
<Suspect if large enough> and many snails (Trochus, margarita, turbo,
Nassarius...)
<Absolutely not but there is such a predator in snail form....the
Pyramidellid
snail> 1 emerald Mithrax crab (with one claw), <Be afraid....be very afraid...I
don't trust 'em> many Pulsing Xenia (both Pom-Pom and the silver thinner kind),
<Nope not at all> frogspawn, and several other types of corals and polyps. <Not
likely culprits but do keep them from stinging the mantle by putting some
space between the LPS and the clam> I hope I didn't forget any important info.
<Only you would know ;}>
I really don't know what is killing my clams but I really want to find out so I
can enjoy having them in my main tank and not have to worry about their safety.
<What about a tank aimed at keeping these beauties? Maybe a forty or 50 gallon
with a 400 watt metal halide and some live rock in the sump? Add a heater
and that would just about do it.....> I am going to move the clam to another
tank (27 gal bow front that has been running for 3 months) tonight. <Excellent.
This is a great idea provided water parameters are very similar as well as
lighting and the lack of predators.> Hopefully it will be safe in there! <I hope
so. No guarantees though with clams. Not much else to add but maybe keep an eye
on your shrimp and crabs. Water parameters are a must for healthy clams. Let me
know what you find out or how it turns out. ~Paul>
Thank you all in advance again for all of your hard work and time!
Randy
Giant Clam Pyram Snail Parasite pix from Barry
Neigut
Hi Bob,
<Hey Bar!>
Just a note to say hi and hope you are doing great! :-)
<Yes my friend, thank you>
Have been very busy with CD and some other projects but think I will
take
the week-off and do nothing. Went to LA last Saturday and gave a talk on
clams at one of the clubs and had dinner with Scott and Nadine. The
presentation seemed to go well, any way I hope it did. :-) We received
several emails the next day saying that they enjoyed it and learned a
few
things about Tridacnids.
<Wish I could've been there. Have you seen the 3d ed. of Coral mag.?
Mainly spiels re Giant Clams>
I submitted an article to Scott for CA after Sherry edited. :-) Didn't
know
how much he wanted but did tell him I surely could add more if he needed
it.
<Great. Should work to alls advantage... the encouragement and education
of the hobbyist, promotion of your business...>
Maybe if you are in town this next week, I can come by and we can do
scans
those slides that Rod sent.
<Sure. Any time. Di is out for ten days to the east coast so we're
looking for fun things to do.>
Here is an image that you guys might want to use somewhere, " pyrams" I
am
going to use it in my book. Think it is a good example of how they look
after the jelly like sack breaks.
Barry
www.clamsdirect.com
<Yikes! Thanks much. Bob F> |
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New T. Crocea and Possible Mantis Shrimp(s) 4/9/04
Hi Anthony (or fellow knowledgeable Crew mate):
<howdy!>
I hope all is well with you.
<and with you in kind>
It's been a while but I have something to ask. A couple of weeks ago I placed a beautiful T. Crocea on the bottom of a tank with a sugar-fine sand bed. (I'll skip the tank parameters since they don't relate to the question at hand.) I placed him on a flat rock buried in the sand as I have read one should do.
<yes... excellent>
A few days ago, I noticed that the rock was uncovered around the clam, so I carefully scooped some sand back around the base of the clam to cover the rock again. I thought maybe the flow in the tank had uncovered the rock, or that the clam had blown the sand away at some point. Well, to my horror (okay maybe not horror, but definitely displeasure) I came down this morning to find the clam lying on it side in the sand and the rock even more uncovered. I thought at first that the clam had been trying to move and blown all the sand around, even though he was still attached to the rock by a thin appendage. So, I went into the tank intending to upright him when --- YIKES!! From the rock that the clam was sitting on came three darkish brown figures streaking for the live rock! I took a look at the rock the clam sits on and realized that it wasn't quite as flat as I thought. It has a small groove down the middle that goes directly under the clam. I can't think of anything these might be except mantis shrimp. Are there mantis shrimp that stay quite small or grow very
slowly?
<yes, indeed... some with a max size of 1" (2.5.cm)>
These were only about 0.5 - 0.75" long and the rock in this tank is probably at least a year old.
<ahhh, probably just amphipods. Unless you are familiar with them and can rule them out. Do find pics on the net of them (also in our Reef Invertebrates book)>
Also, they swam instead of running along the bottom and moved very quickly. I assume mantis shrimp can swim when they want to do so??
<yes>
Anyway, my new theory is that they dug and tunneled around the clam trying to get to his "soft underbelly." I am going to set a trap near the clam tonight, but I just wanted to check whether this sounded reasonable to you or whether you had other ideas.
<no worries... the trap sounds like a good idea, indeed>
Whatever they are, they don't seem "clam friendly," if you get my drift. They must go!! ...if I can catch them..! That's it for now. Thanks again for all your advice in the past. Take care, Greg
<best of luck. Anthony>
Snail Hunting
<Ryan with you today.>
This is more of an observation/hint/tip on ridding your tank of Pyram snails
before adding clams. <Great> They, Pyram snails, seem to be
attracted to the small
Trochus intextus snails I got as part of a reef cleaner package. As
the Trochus move around the live rock at night, the Pyrams crawl onto their
shells to possibly feed on these Trochus (I have never seen this but I suppose it
happens). When the lights go off, the Trochus come out and
usually have a few
Pyrams holding on near the bottom edge of their cone-shaped shell. I
just
pick the Trochus out of the tank and rub the Pyrams off with my thumb and put it
back. I do not have clams at this time and the Pyram population
has been
substantially reduced using this method of hand extraction. I
had a small
six-line wrasse in the tank and s/he wasn't making much progress at all
(underachiever). It nibbled at many things on the rock but I
never saw it eat one of
these snails. Initially, some of the Trochus snails had a couple
dozen tiny
Pyrams on their shell. Now I see one or two now and then.
Pyrams are not
attracted to any of the other grazer snails I have in the tank just the Hawaiian
Trochus!
<Very interesting observation. I will post for others to read. Thanks
for sharing, Ryan>
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Citron Goby annoying Crocea Clam
Hello,
<Hi>
This has got to be the strangest pair I've ever seen:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/precisionpf/aquarium/104_0479.JPG
<Good shot!>
I just bought this Citron Goby earlier today, and it hid for a while, as is
usual for new fish to do in the tank. When it came out a few hours later
though, it took a liking to the clam. First it tried to swim into the clam's
intake, which the clam didn't enjoy at all. (Thank God it didn't actually
make it in) Now the fish just lays on top of the clam's mantle... The clam
occasionally sucks its mantle in, and thrusts it back out, throwing the fish
off, but he just hops right back on, and a while later, it happens again.
Is this normal? Should I do something to try and scare the fish away from
the clam?
<These gobies will often perch on different subjects in the aquarium whether
this be a powerhead, coral, rock, or a clam. While it can at first be disturbing
the clam, eventually the clam should get used to such action and not think it's
a threat. On a side note, there's really no way to change the goby's mind.>
Also, I'm having some problems with persistent red Cyanobacteria.
<That bacteria can be a real pain.>
I did a 3 gallon water change (12g tank) one day, and a 2g the next, but the
stuff
just comes back in a seemingly greater amount daily. I've now added Chemi
Clean to help clean the stuff out, and it has worked well (I just wanted to
avoid using it to not anger any of the life in the tank, regardless that the
bottle says it's safe for all invertebrates). I'll be putting in another
scoop in two days, and then do a 3 gallon water change to clean out the
system. Any ideas what's causing the outbreaks of it? All my system specs are
good,
negligible nitrates and nitrates, good PH and Alkalinity, no ammonia, etc.
Any advice on getting rid of the Cyanobacteria, and keeping it away is
appreciated.
<Cyanobacteria is often caused by high phosphate levels, low amounts of
current (lack of oxygen) and high nutrients. I would first question your flow --
is it strong? Cyanobacteria tends to grow in areas with low flow/low oxygen
levels. Cyanobacteria will also grow in aquariums which contain high amounts of
phosphate. You say that at after your water changes the Cyanobacteria comes back
in greater amounts. This makes me think that your water you're using contains
phosphate and/or silicates. I would start testing your water for phosphate as
this could very well be the cause of this. If your tank does contain phosphate,
I would recommend using a phosphate filter media which will eliminate phosphate
- PhosBan and Rowaphos are both excellent (not to mention pricey) products which
I would highly recommend for removing any phosphate or silicate in your
aquarium.>
I also have this problem with green bubble algae that doesn't seem to want
to go away either, any ideas on how to get rid of the bubbles without
promoting the growth of more of them from popping the bubbles?
<For the most part, this is up to you to get rid of. There are a few species
of crabs which will consume Valonia (Bubble algae) such as the Emerald Crab
(Mithrax sculptus), however, if you feed your tank well most likely it won't.
I've also had problems with larger Emerald crabs moving around the rockwork and
eating polyps in the genus Palythoa.>
Thanks for your help and time.
<No problem. Take Care, Graham.>
-Enrique
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- What Was that Thing? -
Dear WetWebMedia Crew,
I was reading through yesterday's daily questions and came across one about a
Citron goby hanging out on a clam mantle. The question included a
picture of the fish resting on the clam. In the bottom right-hand
corner of the photo, there are some small red "buds" growing
on a piece of live rock. What is this red organism? I have the same
thing growing in my tanks. I attached the same picture below.
<I think it's a type of algae, but it's kind of hard to be certain as the
focus in that part of the image is a little off.>
Thank you,
Jason
<Cheers, J -- > |
Re: Citron Goby annoying Crocea Clam
Hello,
<Hi again.>
Thanks for the info on the Goby & clam. Glad it's not just a strange Goby.
<No problem.>
A couple more questions:
Is it good that a clam extends it's mantle fully? I would assume it is, but
a guy a the LFS said that it might be that it's doing that to get more light
and needs to be moved. Here's a picture of it with it's mantle fully
extended:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/precisionpf/aquarium/104_0457.JPG
<Yes, it's a good sign that clams extend their mantle fully. Your clam looks
quite healthy, too.>
And here's the whole aquarium, before a good cleaning:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/precisionpf/aquarium/104_0456.JPG
(still trying to figure out how to re-arrange the rockwork.)
<Looks good.>
I use an RO/DI filter and I'm pretty sure that there are no phosphates in
it. Lacking a phosphate test kit I can't be sure. Doesn't an RO/DI filter
remove phosphates in the water, though?
<Yes, however, if your system is old and the filters have not been changes
some phosphate may be able to escape into the aquarium. Frozen foods also
usually contain phosphate in them.>
I'm kind of constrained by space in the tank to put in another powerhead.
Maybe some of those mini MaxiJets that are sold will work.
<Yes, those will do fine.>
Valonia: I'll live with it for a while more. I'm not too fond of crabs, and
I've read that it's hit or miss with emeralds. Some will eat the stuff
voraciously, while others will completely ignore it.
<Correct.>
In the full tank picture: Any idea what type of polyps those are?
<I see a lot of polyps -- are you referring to the polyps to the right of the
clam? If so, those look like Button polyps (In the genus Palythoa).>
I got two of them for free at an LFS a few months back, and they proceeded to
take
over the entire rock.
<They can grow quite quick.>
Thanks for your help.
<Take Care, Graham.>
-Enrique |
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Re: Citron Goby annoying Crocea Clam
And once more. :)
<Hi again!>
I think the clam looks pretty good. The guy I got it from kept it in the
very bottom of a tank, with what appeared to be dim lighting (can't remember
the exact wattage and number of gallons). He had had that clam, and another
living there for two weeks, and that they had seemed to be hardy. He also
told me that the people he's sold them to have had good luck with the clams
and that they're rather hardy.
Here's a pic of the whole aquarium, showing the current location of the
clam:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/precisionpf/aquarium/Panoramic.jpg
<Looks fine.>
I posted tank pics in the 'Nano Reef' section at reef central, and people
are saying my clam will no lead a good life if it doesn't die in the tank.
What are your thoughts on this?
<I will slightly agree with what the members of ReefCentral said - the clam
may not do its best under your current lighting. Under only 32 watts of power
compacts (I assume are 2x 16wt compacts?), the clam will extremely darken in
color. This coloration change is due to increased amounts of zooxanthellae in
the clams mantel which are multiplying to catch as much lighting as possible.
While I have seen clams do well under lower amounts of lighting, the majority of
tridacnids (especially those as light loving as the T. crocea) die under low
amounts of lighting.>
The tank is a 12 gallon with a 32 watt PC fixture installed, and all the tank
water parameters are OK. (Sans the Cyanobacteria, which seems to be mostly under
control now).
<As I said, 32wts isn't going to be best for the clam.>
From my talks with the guy at the pet shop, the looks of the clam (it's been
in there for 2 or 3 weeks now), and the way it reacts if you even walk by
the tank sometimes, it seems to be in good shape. What are your thoughts?
<The clam does indeed look healthy, and from the way it sounds, it's also
aware that your in its presence -- will the clam continue to act as healthy in
another month? In a year? I actually doubt so. Eventually the clam may starve
from lack of lighting, which is what I'm worried about.>
Once more, thanks for your help.
<No Problem.>
I'm a bit new to clams, and from what I read and was told, it should be ok the
way I have it, but I could always have been misled.
<I can't accurately say whether the clam will die or not under your lighting.
As I've stated above, I've seen many aquariums successfully house the T. crocea
under fluorescent lighting, however, these systems have outstanding water
quality and have been setup for an extended period of time. It may live, it may
not. It may even take several months to die off, or it may live but grow at a
slow rate and show poor coloration. I would personally recommend returning it
and refraining from another clam until you have upgraded your lighting. Most of
the low light tridacnid clams (T. gigas, T. squamosa, T. derasa) will outgrow
your tank in a short amount of time. The smaller clams (T. maxima and T. crocea)
will require more intense amounts of lighting. As previously stated, upgrading
your lighting would help quite a bit if you plan on keeping the light-loving
tridacnid clams.>
Take care.
<You to! Have a good day, Graham Stephan :)>
-Enrique
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Pyramidellid snails 1/24/04
Hello there. I read your articles and FAQ a lot lately. What a
great site, I've
learned a great deal.
<Hi Loris. Adam here. Sorry for the slow
reply. Glad you enjoy WWM!>
My question is this. I'm interested in purchasing a Tridacna clam, but
my tank has these tiny Pyramidellid snails (at least that what I think
they are). The tank is as follows:
90 gallon reef tank
6 months running
3 ocellaris clowns
1 fire Dartfish
(eventually: regal blue tang, royal Gramma, mandarin fish, Kaudern's
cardinal, Chromis)
1 scarlet skunk cleaner shrimp
1 blood red fire shrimp
a number of corals (hard, soft, polyps, etc.)
blue leg hermit crabs
Nerites snails
Everything healthy as can be. From what I've read, a yellow wrasse (H.
chrysus) will munch on the
shrimp, a six-line wrasse will pick on the Dartfish and possibly the
clowns.
<Both of these fish and others will prey on Pyramidellids. My
strongest recommendations for this job are the four line wrasse (Pseudocheilinus
Tetrataenia) and the tail spot wrasse (Halichoeres melanurus). All of
these fish will do the job, have great personality and are attractive, but do
have two downsides... they all can be a bit aggressive (especially when larger,
and especially any Coris) and they are very effective amphipod predators.>
Is there anything out there that can control the Pyramidellid snails and
be safe with the above mentioned? Thanks for your time and
help. Loris
<Coris wrasses get quite large and aggressive. The others may be a
bit belligerent, but probably worth the risk. Also, FWIW, if you have
never had clams, it is doubtful that these are true Pyramidellids, but positive
ID can be quite difficult. If you can take a very high quality of the
operculum of the snails, we may be able to figure it
out. HTH. Adam>
Derasa Clam in trouble 12/4/03
I think there may be a problem with my 4 " derasa. Last week, I found
what I have now identified (I think) as either part of or the complete byssal
gland lying next to the clam... This clam has been in my care for the last year
or so and has never exhibited any sign of a problem. It lies on the substrate
and isn't attached to anything. Now the clam is showing signs of stress... Poor
mantle expansion, slow to react, gaping. Anybody have any idea what the problem
might be?
<could be predation (look for tiny Pyram snails like grains of rice) or
bristleworms at night (inspect after the lights go out)... possibly a crab
although more damage would have been/be likely. Then there is the issue of water
quality: light shock from a recent and overdue change in lamps or a large water
change/change of carbon that increased water clarity suddenly... clams are also
sudden to a large influx of freshwater for evap top-off... or spikes of
supplements to the tank that are not adequately diluted>
I've heard of larger clams expulsing their byssal gland but never 4 " ones
and especially not T. derasa... Thanx Simon
<this last assumption is not correct, my friend... there is little
discrimination by age/species for the expulsion of byssal matter... rather just
a matter of necessity by individual when called for. Still... its not an
unhealthy maneuver and signs of stress here indicate a larger problem perhaps.
Anthony>
Derasa in trouble II 12/6/03
Anthony, Thanks for taking the time to answer. Unfortunately, the clam died
~24hrs after my e-mail. I was not a happy camper.
<sorry to hear it>
The water parameters are all fine and out of all the inhabitants of my 110 gal
reef, the clam is the only casualty.
<different tolerances too to stressors, and "somebody has to be
first" as they say. Point being... don't dismiss the potential for a
problem just because everything else currently looks fine. Without knowing your
full water chemistry, I cannot concur with the evaluation of water quality>
(there's also a 6 inch maxima in there) No Pyramidellid snails or
bristle worms either. There IS an elusive crab in there somewhere.
<yikes... indeed, no crab is truly reef safe>
He's grown quite big since my first sighting.(~1.5 inches of carapace) I know
he's in there but I don't see him often.
<do bait and trap him. Should be easy enough (crabs are greedy). We have tips
for doing this in the WWM archives and in our Reef Invertebrates book>
Looks like a type of crab I've heard called "shame face crabs" but I
can't be sure. Maybe I should be trying to catch
him...? Thanx again. Simon
<if it is indeed large clawed like a shame-faced crab, you can be assured it
is a threat. Those claws are generally built for eating snails and
bivalves/clams. Kindly, Anthony>
Clams In A Jam?
Afternoon all!!
<Hiya! Scott F. at your service!>
I have an issue with my two clams as of the past few days they are only ¼ open.
I have had both for years and all other corals and fish are thriving. Is this
common in clams. My calcium reactor is working throughout the day and all
parameters seem fine. Of late the clams have been emitting some kind of mucus
which I assumed was from the newly added calcium reactor. Any advise on why BOTH
they have shut for the past two days??
Thanks Stu
<Well, Stu- it's hard to say exactly what your clams are reacting to, but it
might be possible that some sort of water parameters are out of whack. Usual
suspects include ammonia, nitrite, excessive phosphate levels, or rapidly
fluctuating pH, not to mention the possibility of "chemical warfare"
from stinging cnidarians that may be in close proximity to the clams. Did you
recently change lighting? Are you using any new additives,
"medications", or foods in the tank that could be a problem? Test the
water again, just to be sure. In the absence of these as problems, the other
possibility is that someone in the tank has started picking at the clams. Do
check the behaviors of any of the "usual suspects" (i.e.; angels,
certain wrasses, etc.) to see if this occurring. My advice when these kinds of
seemingly unexplained anomalous behaviors occur is to use the old standby of a
water change, coupled with use of aggressive protein skimming and activated
carbon. Hopefully, with a bit of minor intervention, and the passage of time-
things should work out fine, and they'll be "happy as a clam" in no
time! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Cowries and giant clams
Hi,
<Howdy>
I added a giant clam to my aquarium a week ago. It seemed to
acclimate
pretty well, and was generally being left alone by all others in the tank,
until today. This afternoon I found a cowry had latched onto the
clams
foot.
<Foot as at the base? The byssus?>
I didn't want to wait around to see if it was just passing by, so I
moved it off and relocated the clam to a less vulnerable spot. The
cowry
played dead for most of the afternoon, the clam seemed to be ok with the
spot I placed it, so no big deal, right? Now tonight I find the cowry
is on
the clam again. This time it's stuck on the clams side. Does
he have the
ability to drill through a giant clam shell with his radula??
<Not likely. Cypraeids don't prey on tridacnids as far as I'm aware>
I have not
been able to figure out if he's going to kill my clam or just give up and go
away. Please help.
thanks,
eve
<Very likely the cowry is simply "looking for food" on what it
perceives as an "inanimate object". I would not be concerned here. Bob
Fenner>
Blue cleaner wrasse on Pyramidellid snails
Hi! I have a giant clam which has Pyramidellid snails on it. I introduced some
blue cleaner wrasse knowing that wrasses eat these parasites.
<wrasses do eat them but not cleaner wrasses. A six line or four line will do
the trick>
Is blue cleaner wrasse good in eating pyrams?
<no>
When is wrasse more effective? day or night?
<depends on wrasse cleaner wrasses more active during day>
I am planning to do a little experiment on the feeding habits of the blue
cleaner wrasse that I bought. Do you know the rate of feeding of this wrasse on
pyrams?
<no feeding>
I want to know if the result of my experiment will be correct. Thanks a lot! I
want to be a marine biologist someday...
<Thanks for the question Mike H>
Missing derasa clam! 10/14/03
I added a derasa clam to my 44 gal reef tank a few months ago. It
didn't seem to like the spot I originally placed it in--stayed tightly
closed--so I moved it to a corner of the tank, on the bottom where the light
wasn't as intense. It appeared to like that spot, opening about half
way, closing in response to shadows, first facing the glass on one side of it's
corner, then the next day it would be facing the glass on the other side of its
corner. In other words, active, apparently healthy.
<agreed>
I dose the tank with a teaspoon of calcium and 8 drops of iodine daily, per supplement
label instructions. I feed the tank DT's once or twice a week, and
use a syringe to shoot some DTs near the clam's intake.
<do go easy on squirting any supplements directly at filter feeders...
including such foods>
This morning, when I fed the fish in the tank their Mysis shrimp, the clam as
usual was open about half way and responded to the shadow of my hand. About
5pm I passed the tank and stopped to watch a minute. The clam shell
was gaping wide open and the clam was missing! Where did it go?
<clearly was predated by something. A crab in the tank is the most likely
candidate. Do trap for one at night with a small glass jar and a satchel of bait
(heehee... food clam in a nylon bag or piece of boiled nylon stocking) inside...
to see who the culprit is. Happy hunting... sorry about the clam too my friend.
Anthony>
Gaping Crocea - 10/07/03
I have a 5" crocea which is gaping, the mantle is recessed, the inlet
siphon is stretched as well as other spots on the mantle which looks like skin
being stretched and ripped, the outlet whole that used to stick out like a
nipple no longer does, just a hole, and when you look in the inlet siphon you
can see the sand on the bottom of the tank (it's no longer enclosed. water
parameters are ok, any tell tale sign? <Well, the sign to me is this clam
will not, in all likelihood, make it another 24 hours. Don't move it though.
Leave it be for the now. There isn't much known in the way of clam mortality per
se. They seem to waste away quite quickly and for no reason. There are a great
many theories, though. Read through our site on clams: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/tridacnidart.htm
go through the links. Also, we have a friend of the site Barry Neigut of
ClamsDirect.com, who not only has a forum on his site for troubleshooting clams,
but he sells, and even consoles problems with clams via email. Give him a try as
I am sure he deals with more clam problems in one day than we hear about in a
month.> is it dead? <Possibly a goner> sorry for not giving more info
<No more info to give. It is said that without the right sized foodstuffs
(usually seems to be a natural occurring type of food) most clams last for a
year or less in a tank. What I take from that, is that clams need to be fed at
some level. There just isn't enough nutrition derived from photosynthesis.
Something to keep in mind. Check Barry out!! -Paul>
- Everyone's Favorite Snails: The Pyrams! -
My really nice Tridacnid clam has not been looking so good for the last
week. He is about 3 inches long. Today I found about 6
Pyramidellid snails eating on his shell. <Very common on farmed clams> I
removed them all, the were really small about half the size or less of a dried
grain of rice. <Pyram snails, woohooo!> My question is, is it too late?
<Depends, if everything else is in good shape and it's not too far gone, it
should be fine. Keep checking every day or so for a while for any stragglers or
egg-masses. It's also easier to check at night when they'll be actively feeding
in the open> He is still expanding but the tissue does not go beyond his
shell like it use to. Anything I can do? I make my own
Phytoplankton so I am upping the amount to about 1/2 cup in the morning and 1/2
cup at night in my 125g reef. <Sounds like everything should be ok, although
the clam appears to be pretty stressed by the whole situation. Just keep an eye
out for more buggers and remove as needed. Good luck! -Kevin> Thanks Larry
Bleached spot on clams mantle- 5/28/03
G'day guys,
<cheers, mate>
Just a few quick questions regarding thistles and a clam.
<and I will counter with a question right off the bat: what is a thistle? The
common name is not familiar to me, my friend. I browsed several Australian
message boards too (keyword searched) wondering if the name was colloquial and
came up empty <G>. Tell me more about what kind of organisms this is,
please>
Firstly the clam in my tank has grown considerably over the past 6 months.
<often so... as much as 5-10 mm monthly is not unheard of for T. derasa and
T. gigas in particular>
A small area on a flap has lost its pigment from brown speckled to white. Is
this to do with this area not getting the light??
<not likely... or not a good sign if so. It seems surprising that any tissue
lies settled on any single part of the mantle long enough to cause such a
condition. Do you have enough current to keep the mantle of this clam (as with
coral polyps) flowing nicely? If so... we need to seek another explanation>
As this area is actually hidden when the clam is fully opened. When it shuts you
can notice the white section which
is only 2cm. Any advise as it doesn't seem to effect the clam but takes away
some of the beauty.
<it can/will be a problem in the long term though. Beyond current, aged lamps
(or those with salt creep, dust, dirty lenses, etc) suffer the clams as the
light degrades... the weakest parts of the mantle in turn are the first to show
signs of stress/bleaching>
Lastly thistles seem to be hard to keep in an aquarium. Why is this and what are
the ideal conditions for it to survive. eg: placement in the tank and food
sources etc?? Thanks
Stu
<as per above on the thistles, my friend. Kind regards, Anthony>
Gaping clam.. take a sniff
Hey everyone! I ask you guys so many questions I feel like I
should send along a keg of beer! Maybe one day I will have the
opportunity to repay you for all the help you have given and likely will
continue to give, but for now I hope that my passing on information to those
less knowledgeable than myself and keeping my mind open to those more
knowledgeable will suffice.
<actually... lets get back to talking about that beer. Ahem... oh, sorry...
Yes. Your question <G>>
Two questions for you this time accompanied by a picture. It is about
the clam again, but this time I am hoping the picture will show what I was
describing in more detail.
<it does>
T. squamosa. About 5" long, 4" wide 4" tall. Coloration
is fine, but not accurate in the picture. In reality it is a nice
golden/rust color. The central fading has regained about 50% of its
zooxanthellae since I got it 7 days ago (probably expelled some zooxanthellae
during shipping - shipping water had some minor discoloration).
<understood and common with imports... but not domestically shipped clams.
What happened? Coast to coast on the airlines in even inclement weather takes
only 6-9 hours. For bleaching to have occurred, the animal would had to have
been subjected to an extreme of temperature or a delay. Was this the case?
Please don't tell me this was clam shipped via overnight carrier instead...
Ughhh! Very few organisms if any should be shipped that way (discussed at length
in my book... I'll excerpt it for anybody interested)>
Initially I was told by several people (based on written descriptions, which
were/are lacking) not to worry about my clam, but something just doesn't look
"natural" so to speak.
<normally I would have agreed with them as it is most often the case... but
your picture helps, and your clam is not feeling well (gaping inhalant siphon...
the beginnings are clear to me)>
The two questions are:
1. Is the inhalant siphon gaping?
<yes... just starting. And I have laid eyes on thousands of clams...
literally (as an importer for wholesale)>
If you look closely you can see the edges of the siphon are rolled back a little
bit.
<agreed>
This has been progressing more every day I have had it. Right now the
inhalant siphon is the size of a half dollar and almost perfectly round. Also,
there are no tentacles left to speak of. Barry had the clam for 6
weeks and the quality of his clams is reputed to be excellent (and I have no
doubts about this),
<and I also agree with this>
but do you think maybe the shipping was just too much stress?
<depends... if we are talking New York to California on Delta... 4.5-6 hour
flight... 2-3 hour recovery... 7-9 hours total. No problem even if New York was
cold. However... if you ship FedEx Premium, for example (and most people do not
pay this extra-extra overnight fee... but take the "by 3PM" option)...
the animal is in transit for a bare minimum of 14 hours (usually closer to 20
hours) and almost every bit of that is at ambient temperature... whatever that
is (they pay for no climate control for planes, trucks or warehouses.. can't
blame them... they are not in the livestock shipping biz). Again, 14 hours cold
is a best case scenario... if the office closes at 8PM, and if the clam was
packed outside their door at the last minute (Ha!)... and if the clam makes it
into your tank by 10AM next morning. Overnight parcel services are not scaled
for livestock and many marine creatures die this way. I just don't see why some
merchants still use them>
At night it is able to partially close its inhalant siphon.
2. Is the siphonal mantle spread too wide? It looks
stretched a little bit, especially right at the top of the inhalant siphon.
<agreed>
I'm wondering if the adductor muscle is weakened at this point and it cannot
maintain a more closed position (it can definitely slam its shell shut if it
wants, but it doesn't do this unless I'm really messing with it).
<what was the water temp when you got the clam and how long would you
estimate shipping took?>
I should add when I removed the clam from its shipping bag it wasn't completely
closed then either.
<no biggie at that point>
Everything else about the clam seems fine. Quick reactions to light
changes, shadows etc. When it wants to it can completely close its
shell. At night it pulls its mantle in and closes up a little bit. I
saw a few Pyramidellid snails, so I picked those off.
<no biggie... common and controllable>
Today I pulled the clam out and saw a small orange mass on the bottom so I
promptly took my nifty Oral-B toothbrush to the whole clam and made sure to get
all the orange off, which I am assuming were snail eggs.
<correct, possibly>
Also while it was out I smelled it (and I got squirted right up my nose for my
efforts, but it was funny) and it smelled just like it should - fresh
marine/fish smell.
<dude... you are weird <G>>
Also my six-line finally made it into my tank and within 10 minutes was circling
the clam and picking at the shell.
<maybe it was looking to sniff the clams bunghole>
Presumably and hopefully at the snails. Also, I have stayed up fully
two nights in a row watching for predation. None.
<good to hear>
I read a post on Reef Central (http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81032&highlight=gaping)
that seemed logical. Basically he tied the clams shells shut.
<The thread is interesting... but I have some concerns with the reasoning and
logic of it at length. Something to discuss at length over a beer <G>>
I don't think I would want to tie them completely shut as he did, but do you
think, IF there is even anything wrong with the clam in the first place, that
this would be something worth trying?
<weakly if so>
Once again thank you kindly! Yours is an invaluable service to the
hobby and to the creatures entrusted to our care! RVM
<with kind regards, Anthony>
Clams and Pyram snails and angry little wrasses
Anthony (or whomever else, Anthony just seems to get all my e-mail hehe), I
hope all is well and pleasant!
<and with hope for you as well>
I'm planning to get my open water dive cert. before this summer and hopefully
take a trip to Australia and the GBR. I absolutely cannot wait!
<outstanding!>
Well, onto the point of this post, which is quite the direct opposite of the
excitement of diving in a natural, well-preserved reef. Interesting observation
inside my clam. I'll paste here what I posted on RC and sent to
Barry.
-------------------
Looking into its inhalant siphon you can see the gills and internal body
structure. Well, right between the gills, there is the fleshy (could
not find the correct anatomical term) divider which separates the guts, internal
organs, exhalant chamber from the inhalant chamber. This flesh is
translucent, that is, you can see through it to a degree. Well I'm
peering in at my little shrimp today, doing whatever it is they do in there, and
I see a black shadow on this fleshy divider. I look closer and come
to find it has the outline of a 2mm (rather large) Pyramidellid snail. I
can see the foot outline and the shell on top of it. No mistake as to
what it is.
<alas, yes... they are too common>
I can see no way to remove this pest without killing the clam.
<actually no... you can have a soft bumper (foam) ready to slip at the
splayed opening of the clam to keep it pried open and use surgical tweezers
(pointed tip) to extract the snail perhaps... like the game
"Operation" as a child... except without the buzzers>
I am guessing this is why my clam usually seems stressed.
<Oh, ya>
It is probably also why the mantle surrounding the inhalant is bleaching out.
<hmmm... stress here>
There are no snails on the outside of the clam and no eggs on the bottom. I
figure even just one of those snails sucking away at its insides could do it in
though.
<agreed>
This bothers me because there is nothing I can do.
<maybe we can find a 4 mm six-line wrasses with an attitude to swim into the
clam's body and kick that snail's ass <G>>
Generally all I'd have to do is remove this snail and all would hopefully be
well (barring other problems/diseases I am unaware of) but I cannot. If anyone
has any advice at all please do share!
<use the bumper and tweezers instead>
*edited in*
I now see 4 simultaneously. One is still the 2mm one, it hasn't moved
much, and there are 3 others, varying from .5mm to 1.5mm. *sigh* I'm
frustrated!
------------------
Thread is here http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142032
--------------------
Please do tell me your thoughts on this. Is it possible this might be
the "clam disease" that has been wiping out clams over the past
several/many months?
<I suspect they are unrelated>
Freshwater dips seemed to have helped in some of these cases. Obviously
the freshwater killing the snails within the clams could account for the success
here.
<risky... but possible>
I believe Minh Nguyen had much success with freshwater dips.
Either way this might be something worthwhile to put on your Tridacnid FAQ so
others might know what to look for.
<will do... with thanks. Anthony>
Waiter, There Are Snails In My Clam! (Pyramidellid Snails)
I have a 6" T. Derasa. A few days ago I noticed that it wasn't
extending its mantle as much as usual and its incurrent siphon was opened much
more than usual. I picked it up and it had about 30 Pyramidellid snails attached
to it.
<Yikes!>
I was able to pick most of them off but there more today. What can I do? I can
temporarily move it to a different tank, but it only has NO fluorescents on it.
I do have a sixline wrasse that does
a good job of getting the snails that attach to the clam up towards the mantle
but it can't get to the ones that are attached to the bottom. Thanks, Eric
<Well, Eric, I think the sixline wrasse is a good "assistant" for
you, but manual extraction may be the best way to go here. I you want to move
the clam to this separate aquarium, you can compensate for the NO fluorescents
(at least for a short period of time) by placing the clam higher up in the tank.
Just keep an eye on this clam...Ya know- I'm a major quarantine freak (even for
clams and inverts)...a nasty Pyramidellid snail infestation is a great lesson on
the value of quarantine. As you are finding out, these little @#$%#@ snails are
a real drag to get rid of once they get a foothold <G> in your
tank...quarantine can help. Just stay on top of things...keep inspecting the
clam daily, and, in time, hopefully you can end this infestation! Good luck!
Regards, Scott F>
"Gaping" Squamosa - 4/2/03
Hi there WWM Crew... <Hi there. Paul here for a few>
I hope this email finds you happy and healthy today. <Actually no, I have a
horrible cold. A little slow on the draw, but otherwise fine>
I have a question regarding the well being of my new T. Squamosa. <OK. Go for
it> Is it normal for them to gape for the first few days following
acclimation? <Well, in my experience they can "gape" anytime and
usually recover. You just never know though. If I remember though it seems to me
that Squamosa kinda "gape" anyway.> The lil guy was
delivered Tuesday and was acclimated over a period of an hour plus. <Well,
nice but did he go into an acclimation tank? In any event sounds fine> I
ensured that I added some tank water, via a turkey baster, over and over until
the container was full. <very well> I then dumped half and did
the process over again. After more than an hour, I finally placed him
on a piece of empty clam shell just under the substrate for him to become
accustomed to his new environs. <Very good. Lights off?> Other
than a troublesome wider inhalant, it seems okay. Color is good and
mantle expansion seems normal for a newbie. <Sounds about right>
The packaging from the seller was wonderful. <Who is the seller if you don't
mind me asking?> Many air filled bags of insulation surrounded the live
specimen bag. <Cool> There was 2 inch foam lining the box and
two heating pads therein. <Good> The water temp was not all that cold,
considering it is New England. <What does that mean?> I waited at the door
all morning for delivery and acclimated it right away. <Very responsible> It
was en route for a short period of time (Next state overnight - FedEx) <Still
could be a lot of handling between seller and buyer>
The reason I chose Squamosa is that I have power compacts. <ahhh, good choice
then> Everyone I speak with says that my 6w/per gallon should be sufficient.
<Definitely> I've read the book "Giant Clams" and it
too says that Squamosa would be my choice. <Very good. Glad to hear you on
board as a Conscientious Marine Aquarist> I was planning leaving him on the
substrate, but your opinion on this is appreciated as well. <I would leave
him there for about a week minimum. Then slowly start moving him toward his
final resting place. In the wild though, these guys are usually found on the
substrate. So he may be fine where he is. If he continues to gape though I would
definitely hold off on moving him anywhere. Clams have been known to crash and
die in about 12-24 hour period, so keep an eye on him. Oh yeah, definitely let
the seller know he came to you in this "gaping" condition. From the
picture though he looks pretty good!>
I may just be paranoid. Others have told me that Squamosa have larger
siphons as compared to other Tridacnids. <True> I'm used to seeing Maximas
which rarely "open wide". <Also true. Healthy ones anyway> I've
attached a picture for your viewing. <Looks good> You can email
me direct if this is not FAQ worthy. Definitely FAQ worthy. Did you get a chance
to read our FAQs? Lots of good info there. you can always contact Barry Neigut
at ClamsDirect.com as he has quite a good amount of experience in the various
hobby clams.>
Thanks for all your help. <My pleasure David. I am sure your clam will thank
you for your research as well!>
David
Clam exudation 3/27/03
Greetings! I have a blue Tridacna maxima, about 5 inches below
the surface of the water under a 175W MH with 40W of fluorescent actinic. The
clam is about two years old. Recently I have noticed that in the
evening, I see a very thin brown strand of (I assume) zooxanthellae
algae coming out of the exhalant siphon.
<could be... sometimes they are expelled naturally in small packets, other
times induced by stress (increase in light as with new bulbs or clarity as with
water change or sudden use of carbon)>
The clam is well extended and looks great. Water parameters are great
and unchanged, except that I recently (1 month ago) noticed that the pH was
dropping to 8.00 during the night. I slowly used Reef Buffer to raise
the pH to about 8.45 during the day, dropping to about 8.30 at night. Salinity
is 1.025 and nitrites are zero, and nitrates are 5ppm.
<all good>
I use PolyFilter and an Urchin Pro. Is this algae discharge normal?
thanks tom
<likely no worries at all. Be mindful not to overfeed (at risk of clogging
gills) with liquid supplements too. Best regards, Anthony>
Re: Clam exudation 3/27/03
Thanks for your response, Anthony. I have been feeding liquid
food, perhaps a little bit more than usual. This afternoon I noticed
some bleached spots on the mantle which weren't present this morning. The
mantle is open/out.
<not good signs at all... and rules out coagulated food from overfeeding as
the primary. Stress from a physical parameter is more likely now... the sudden
influx of a larger than normal bit of freshwater perhaps for belated evap
top-off? Dosing supplements in strong concentration near it at the top of the
tank (sans dilution in sump or strong stream). Hmmm... many possibilities.
Predation is more common in general but would not expectedly cause the bleach
spots. Instead we are looking for stress or disease here. Perhaps a new fish or
coral added recently without QT brought in a pathogen>
Any suggestions? thanks, tom
<watch nightly for predators, but otherwise do not disturb while evaluating
water quality. A water change is usually helpful too (dilution of the unknown).
Anthony>
Stressed no more... better Tridacna days 3/28/03
Anthony, Sorry to have raised the alarm.. My otherwise beautiful, talented
and intelligent wife mistook the golden mantle highlights as
"bleaching".
<ahhh... no worries. An easy mistake to make under the circumstances. Kudos
for her attentiveness indeed>
The clam did put off some brown strands of material, which I was earlier asking
you about. I had gone out of town, though, and I asked her how the
clam was doing and whether there was any bleaching. She reported
back, and I emailed you again. Ah well.
<better days ahead for sure>
Thanks for your very prompt, thoughtful and caring response. You are
a credit to the hobby! tom
<its truly redeeming to hear you say so, my friend. Thanks kindly and best
regards! Anthony>
Clams
Hi Bob,
Want to pass something by you. You may or may not be aware that a lot of people are losing clams after buy clam/s that are coming from Pohnpei so
I have been told.
<Have heard this from others>
The people that have contacted me are saying that once they placed this clam in their tank with a day or so the clam dies and
then a chain reaction starts, some have lost clams that they have had for several months or years. Some think it is a bacteria infection.
My question is, if indeed this is correct will the bacteria infection
remain the tank or even stay in the LR or substrate. Some people have reported good luck using Doxycycline as a treatment.
<Have also heard this>
Do you have any information or suggestion on this subject?
<Will send to others here>
All is going well on this end. Thanks for you help in the past and yes
ClamsDirect is doing well thanks to some of your help. :)
<Very good to hear/read of your success. Be chatting, Bob Fenner>
Best Regards, Barry
Derasa Clam Problem
Bob, I have about a 5 inch derasa clam and a 2 1/2 in maxima clam. I have had the
derasa for over a year and it has been doing very well. I just recently added the maxima about 3 months ago. To give you some info on my system, I have a 125 gallon reef tank with a mixture of hard and soft corals. I have VHO lights. All of the necessary parameters for good water quality are where they should be. Both of my clams are on the floor of my tank. About two days ago I noticed my
derasa clam was leaning to one side, which I didn't think much of because it sometimes would tip over because a fish would swim by and spook it. I went to straighten it up with a little stick I have like I have done hundreds of times before and noticed that the clam didn't close right away from the contact. As a matter of fact, it almost seemed like the two halves of the shells were not aligned anymore either. When I tried straightening the clam by lifting the one half of the shell it sort of moved independently of the other one. This seems to have gotten worse over the last few days. The mantle is not receded or anything and still has good color. The clam just isn't opening up fully like it used to and the what holds the two halves together seems to have lost the strength to hold itself together and close fully. The clam is showing no signs at all of being attacked by anything. I see no holes from worms. There were a couple of those supposedly reef safe snail with the small, flat, purple and brown shell that only come out at night hiding underneath the shell but I'm pretty sure these are not doing anything to the clam.
<if you are referring to Stomatella "paper-shell" snails then I agree>
I know it may be hard to determine the cause of the problem but do you have any idea what would cause this?
<I'm concerned if the clams were kept on the sand bottom without a rock buried underneath them. Attachment to a small rock is critical... it prevents snails, worms and crabs from preying from below through the vulnerable abductor port/muscle. Pyramidellid snails are very tiny (like grains of rice as adults!) and very damaging over time. Another concern I have is the lack of light at depth... I fear the clam has been starving from inadequate light. As bright as VHO lamps seem to be... they are very weak at depth: they are only good for the top 12" of water and degrade rapidly below that. So if the clams are at the bottom of an 18-24" deep tank... they are not getting enough light. Starvation may be an issue here>
Is there anything I can do to reverse whatever is happening to the clam. If not, should I immediately remove it from my tank before it maybe spreads to my other clam which sits right next to it?
<unlikely to be contagious... look for Pyram snails and other predators (crabs, bristle worms) and move the clams to within the top 12" of the surface>
I appreciate any help or advice you may offer on this problem. Thank you, Gianluca Carpinelli
<best regards, Anthony>
Clam
Bob,
Wanted to share something with you that I was thinking about while I was
sleeping.
<We've got to stop eating licorice and pepperoni pizzas before dossing
down>
Had a Black Maxima that I placed in a tank and one of my fish attacked him
several times and after the third attach the clam gave up and gapped the size of
a quarter. Not knowing what to do, took the clam out and placed him in a
quarantine tank with minimal light, no substrate and did some feeding. After 8
days the clam recovered fully. I will just about guarantee that if I had left
him in the main tank being so stressed that the critters would have finished him
off. So my observation is that if you have a clam in distress and place him in a
stress free environment so that he can recover he will most likely do so but
leaving him in a stressed situation no chance of recovery. Have done this
several times with 98 % success.
<Thanks for this... you gapper, gipper>
Thought this observation was worth passing on. Not a writer but I think you get
my point. :)
<Yes... will fwd to the fellow-writing boys. Bob>
Regards,
Barry, www.clamsdirect.com
Clam Disease?
Anthony, I recently lost 2 gold Maximums to what I have been told is Clam
Disease. Several people tell that where I purchased them has had tanks that are
infected. What is this mysterious clam disease and just how can I eliminate it
from my system. Should clams be freshwater dipped? Thanks Mark
<I would almost never recommend FW dipping clams. I am also quite doubtful
that whoever suggested your clams had "clam disease" has a clue
(however well intended they might be). The higher rates of mortality from select
clam shipments recently have been limited more to batches rather than a
locale/source or specific pathogen (despite folks in the industry looking for an
excuse for their poor husbandry as retailers or wholesalers). We have seen this
many times with other animals. There is likely no new disease... just poor
handling by at least one of the bigger players in the chain of custody
(importer, LA wholesaler, etc). If a LFS has a "clam problem" then
they simply have water quality issues. To answer you question, bud... there is
no definitive ID of a specific pathogen for this recent "condition".
Preventing and eliminating it is simple: QT all livestock for 4 or more weeks
first. Containment and control. Never add any fish, coral, other invertebrate or
plant to your tank without a 4 week QT. It's Russian roulette if you skip QT. No
meds here... simply good water quality! See the references to feeding ammonium
or nitrate to clams in my coral prop book or better (!) Daniel Knop's Giant
Clams book. Do this in QT to power feed the clams. Natural resistance is better
than anything we can offer Tridacnids. Medicating invertebrates is still in the
dark ages. With kind regards, Anthony>
Tridacnid
Hi, I have a 5" crocea that hasn't opened for a little over a week. I
was going to be getting a rose leather, a green bubble and a Galaxea on Friday. My
flame angel and my yellow tang, I just noticed, have been picking at the clam
when it tries to open a half inch. I need to put the clam in the quarantine
that I was going to use for the corals when they came in. I e-mailed the
sender to delay shipment so I can use the QT for the clam. Is there any
type of food that I need to feed the clam while in the QT?
<Phytoplankton could be helpful, although I have heard that feedings are
particularly important for juvenile clams. Your 5" Crocea is near full size
and could probably live on very little food.>
Or should I just let if feed off the light in the QT while it recuperates?
<Depending on how long it is there will determine if additions are needed.
Daily, small water changes from the main display could provide the clam
dissolved organics to filter feed.>
How long do I need to put it in the QT to bring it back to health before I put
it back in the main tank?
<You cannot put it back in the main tank until after the Flame Angel and
Yellow Tang have been removed.>
Thanks for all the help, Jeff
<Good luck! -Steven Pro>
I Have a Question About a Clam
Hi Bob or whoever is taking your place if your not there;
<Steven Pro right now.>
I've never had a clam before but I'm curious about something I saw on all the clams I have been looking at in the local stores. I believe based on research that these clams are Tridacna derasa. I understand that each has its "mouth" but I'm curious because most of them seem to have a split on the other side of the clam. Is this normal?
<Yes, clams have both an inhalant siphon and an exhalent siphon.>
Are these clams in distress?
<Nope>
Do they all get this split?
<Yes, what goes in must come out.>
Are they forming another mouth?
<No>
Are these specimens to get or to avoid?
<There are other factors to consider. Daniel Knop has written an excellent book, "Giant Clams". Please pick up a copy for your education prior to purchasing any clams.>
Thanks, Mac
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Quarantine Clams
Good morning/evening Steven,
<Good afternoon.>
If I was only to keep one clam, would that reduce the need for quarantine?
<Reduce but not eliminate. Always best to follow good husbandry practices.>
Does this creature carry organisms which may also be dangerous for fish/corals?
<Possible infectious agents in the shipping water.>
Having read quite a bit about clams/care/diseases and predators on your site and others, how would
I know if some predator snail/worms which are not commonly visible (remain hidden in attached rock) were present, short of seeing the clam die?
<See if you cannot find Daniel Knop's excellent book "Giant Clams". He has written an extensive section on identifying and treating various "diseases" of clams. -Steven Pro>
What Needs Quarantined?
Greetings,
Do you need to quarantine a maxima clam?
<Best to quarantine anything.>
If so, why and for how long?
<Generally two weeks minimum with one month being best. Clams sometimes carry parasitic snails that can attack and kill clams in the confines of aquariums.>
How do you get around the need for metal halides in a quarantine situation?
<You really can't. Again, it is a matter of investment. Clams are not cheap and if you have several, bring in a new one that is infected, and then lose all your clams, you will wish you had quarantined. It is actually a quite frequent story that you hear.>
Do you need to quarantine soft/hard corals?
<Yes, and live rock too.>
Many thanks, Michael
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Stressed Out Clams?
Dear WWM Crew, Gentlemen, how are you?
<very well with thanks!>
I need your professional advice once more; I hope you don't mind as I truly appreciate all your efforts/inputs to improve this hobby.
<thanks again... but it is not entirely altruistic: Bob pays us handsomely in chocolate malt balls>
I have a few questions regarding my recently purchased squamosa clam
and maxima clam. First, let me preface by giving you the conditions of my 90 gallon reef tank: lightning--powered by 2x-175 watt 10,000K metal halides and 130 watts of actinic PC, and water parameters--pH @ 8.3, carbonate hardness @ 10.5 dKH, salinity @ 1.025, calcium @ 400ppm, temperature is constant @ 78 degree, magnesium @ 1300ppm, ammonia @ 0ppm, nitrite @ 0ppm, and nitrates @ 2ppm. Fishes included are: yellow and purple tangs, and 3 flame wrasses.
The two clams were purchased 3 days ago and they are both about 3.5 inches. They are placed at the bottom being acclimated to my lightning system.
<excellent... that was my first question in mind... Good move>
I plan to move the maxima clam towards the middle of the tank at the end of this week and leave the squamosa clam at the bottom. Would this be a wise decision?
<because of adult sizes and likely light requirements, I would agree that this is reasonable>
My concern with both of these clams is the wide opening of their
incurrent siphon. It is more pronounce with the squamosa than the maxima and this occurrence only happens when the metal halides are on.
<many theorizes for this...not all bad. Have you read Daniel Knop's Giant Clams book? Excellent!!!>
When the metal halides are off and only the actinic PCs are on or the lights are completely off, the incurrent
siphon is completely closed. Is this normal behavior?
<the predictability of it is reassuring but categorically it may not happen with all>
Or should I be concern with predation, sickness, and/or accumulated stress from shipping?
<do examine closely (and periodically 4-6 times yearly or better) for tiny
Pyramidellid snails>
I performed the shading test, and the maxima is very responsive to
blockage of light and the squamosa is less responsive.
< an unreliable test. Some like T. gigas hardly respond at all>
This has led me to wonder about the correlation between the squamosa having a wider incurrent
siphon opening and its slower response rate to the shading test as not being in good health.
<not necessarily>
I have also checked for predation with a flashlight at night
and I did not see any snails on the mantles.
<excellent>
I feed DT's twice a week.
<hmmm... do read in Knop's book about feeding protocols and foodstuffs. Also, review past FAQs and archives on how best to feed such phytoplankton supplements unless you are already using a blender>
Is there anything I do to help them? Any comments and/or input is greatly appreciated.
<unfortunately the clam is not exhibiting any symptom that we may fairly act upon. Your system is very fine, and acclimation
procedures quite considerate. It may simply be acclimation/adaptation or even nothing at all. Do not be
attempted to move the clams at all for at least 2 weeks. Observe their behavior and follow up here if necessary. I suspect at the end of two weeks there will be no new news <wink> and all will be fine. Best regards, Anthony>
Thank you, Dan
Is my clam doomed
I have recently acquired a 2" derasa clam. He was 10" under 200
watts of Smartlight. Last night he jumped down a step on my live rock, but he
left behind some white tissue still attached to the rock above (byssal (sp)
tissue?).
<correct>
Is there anything I can do or anything I should look for Thanks Jeremy PS other
than this he appears to be in good health
<no worries at all... clams commonly abort old byssal tissue. It is generate
new at the new point of attachment. Freshly imported/disturbed clams will often
do this. Probably just fine. Make sure it attaches soon for its own good
(protection of byssal port from crabs, worms, etc. Anthony>
Derasa Clam problem..
Hello again,
I am writing to you this time about one my Derasa Clams. I have had them
both over 1 month and they have been looking fine. Both have been placed on
the substrate in the middle of the tank. Today, I noticed that this one in
particular, had receded it mantel way back into its shell and the mantle has
started to separate from the shell. It does open and close occasionally. The
other clam is doing well. I am using 96W PC lights from Custom Sealife(8800k daylight and 6700k actinic). I have plenty of water movement 1 Rio800, 2 Rio 180 and water moment from an AquaClear 300 and HOT magnum (both
about 300g.p.h.). Water levels are temp = 76.6, PH = 8.1, Ammonia and
Nitrite =0, nitrate = 2.2, dKH = 9.14, Calcium = 490, Phosphate = 0.
<Mmm, your calcium is a bit high...>
All of
my corals Euphyllia sp., leathers and plate corals are thriving. I have read
through the FAQ’s section on www.wetwebmedia.com
<http://www.wetwebmedia.com/> and did not see any similar instances of this
happening. Am I losing a clam or is there something I can do to save him??
<Even after a month, this specimen may simply be "settling in"... Do take a close look (especially at night with a flashlight) to ascertain whether "somebody" is bothering this clam... worms, snails... can be trouble. Bob Fenner>
Regards,
Keith Broadbent
Re: Derasa Clam problem..
Do you think he may not be getting enough light and to try moving him up
higher on the reef??
<Hmm, possibly... worth trying. Bob Fenner>
Regards,
Keith Broadbent
Clam questions
Bob,
Thanks for you response. I have some additional questions though,
- You mentioned it might be a lack of light, but I didn't think this was the
case because the clams didn't overextend their mantle (as described in Knop's
Giant Clams book), and they didn't show any bleaching that I would expect. I
also tried a variety of placements in the tank - including placing small
maximas/Croceas (1") within 4 inches of the surface.
<Mmm, the placement is a valid indication, the non-extended mantles, bleaching not necessarily so>
Also, the demise is
sudden - the clams usually look healthy for 1 month or more, and then die
within a week (usually within 5 days). Am I missing something in regard to
light?
<Not likely if the losses were rapid onset... more likely something amiss with chemistry
(mis-supplementation in most cases) or an undiscovered parasite load of consequence (like
Pyramidellid snails)>
- You asked how I maintain water chem. I use SeaChem's Reef builder and Reef
Advantage Calcium. I also use instant ocean salt. (I am in the process of
converting one tank to a calcium reactor - Korallin). Is my use of SeaChem's
products potentially involved in the demise of my clams?
<Doubtful. No other additions?>
- You discounted my thoughts on predation. The one thing that keeps pointing
me in this direction is that I NEVER loose multiple clams at once. It's
always one at a time. And then shortly (within 1-2 wks) after one dies,
another one starts to show symptoms. Again, can you expand one why you don't
think its predation?
<Could be... In accounting for how many specimens lost this is just historically about third, fourth in line as common causes/categories of loss>
- Do you have any idea of what the normal survival rates for maxima/crocea
clams are when they are purchased from good mail-order firms (FFExpress, and
others):
<Just guesses... such data are rarely recorded, never shared in the trade>
1) the small ones (1" and under)
2) medium (1 - 3")
3) large (3+ inches)
<Hmm, I would state with certainty that "larger ones live longer"... And guess that one inchers on mean/average probably only make it a month, 1-3" probably 2-3 months (most are "killed off"), 3" ones probably 4-6 months... Some folks do keep any/all sizes for years... but most "don't make it">
The reason I ask is I'm trying to get an idea of what constitutes 'Success'.
<My friend this is beyond us! "Smiles per hour"? Reproducing? Closing the loop, having tank bred young grow up, in turn producing viable young? A subjective measure, the affective domain... "how you feel"?>
I haven't had much luck with long term clam survival (except for my large and
indestructible derasa), but from what I've seen, the LFS's don't seem to have
much luck either.
<Some sources, lines are decidedly much better than others... Much has to do with how these animals are kept, treated "intermediately" going from almost wild culture facilities through holding/shipping... Need TLC at this crucial junction... intense lighting (likely
MH), foods, feeding, addition of biomineral, alkaline materials... Only know of three outfits out of dozens that provide this level of care... their clams are healthier, on "average" live longer/better>
- You mentioned phosphates (and Knop indicates nitrates are needed) for clam
health.
<Yes, actually for all life on this planet.>
My kits have always registered 0 phos/nitrate. Should I be
'injecting' phosphates/nitrates into my tank (gosh - this is tough to
swallow, given the effort I went to eliminate them).
<Mmm, regularly exogenous (outside, provided) feeding of your livestock should present enough of these... do you have too vigorous "other" transport mechanisms? Like chemical filtration, too much macro-algal growth...?>
I have Red-Sea
Berlin classic skimmers running on both 75 gal tanks, with 100+ lbs of Fiji
LR and planted/lit sumps.
<Might try trimming back the macrophytes in the sump>
This combo seems to bring nitrates/phosphates toimmeasurable levels, at least with my test kits (nitrates under 2.5 ppm,
phosphates under 0.05 mg/l). I'm sure there are some levels of
nitrates/phosphates though, because the macro algae - Caulerpa - in my sump grows
well.
- any other suggestions on what I could try to increase my survival rates, or
what could be the cause?
Thanks again - and apologies for the long note.
<We will be discussing this... nature further. Bob Fenner>
Clam question
Bob,
I'm back with additional questions. I have 2 75 gallon tanks both with PC (4
55 watt -7100/6700K on one tank and 4 65 watt - 8800K/7100K on the other
tank). I'm having problems keeping clams for long periods of time.
(Nitrates, nitrites, ammonia, phosphates are 0, ph 7.9 - 8.4, Calcium is
400-450, alk 9-10, salinity 1.023 - 1.024, oxygen is at saturation, temp 78 -
80).
<Mmm, could be a few things... including a need for more light (or moving the animals up in the water column), foods/feeding of the clams, a lack of phosphate... got to have some>
I've had one derasa clam (4 in shell) that has survived for 2 years now and
has always looked like it was thriving and continues to do so - its added 1 -
2 inches in shell growth since I purchased it. I've had a maxima (3 in
shell) that thrived for about 8 mo.s, and then suddenly died. I've also had
several baby maximas (1in) - roughly a dozen - and around another dozen or so
small crocea/maximas/squamosa/derasa (2 in) that have also died.
Basically, they appear to thrive for several weeks, and then they all appear to
become ill and die within 1 week:
- initially, they fail to extend their mantle much past the shell edge.
- then they start to show 'gaping' on their inlet siphon. (within 1 -2
days)
- then (within 1-2 days of the 'gaping') they suddenly die.
<How are you modifying your water chemistry? Doesn't sound like predation, parasitism...>
Usually
their is very little flesh left by this time - my reef hermits will consume
what's left within 24 hrs. I suspected the hermits, but they seem to ignore
the clams until the very last stage - when its obvious that the clam has
died. Also, if I have multiple clams in a tank, they never show illness allat once - its always a one by one demise. I've also tried a variety of
positioning of the clams (bottom, middle, top) to no avail.
I've suspected a predator, but the shells don't show signs of a boring sponge
(or any bore holes from snails). The remaining flesh also appears free of
predators. Any ideas what could be causing this - and why my 1 derasa has
never shown a day of 'weakness'?
<A tougher species, individual for aquarium use>
Are small clams inherently more susceptible
to illness?
<Yes, more>
I also had a few additional questions:
- are you familiar with the Aqualogic cyclone titanium drop in chillers?
<Yes, some>
If
so, are their titanium coils fairly safe (in terms of poisoning tanks)?
<Yes>
- What is your opinion on the Tunze skimmers and the ETSS skimmers?
<Tunze products are excellent, though pricey. ETSS skimmers are great technology for very large (hundreds of gallons), "messy" systems, in situations where folks don't mind spending the money on high volume pumping. Needle wheel technology is superior to downdraft. My opinions are posted on the www.WetWebMedia.com skimmer sections>
The
Tunze claims to be completely plankton safe (I've heard the ETSS marketed as
plankton friendly).
<Mmm, the Tunze much more so>
Are these top notch skimmers?
<Top notch?... for the types of skimmers they are... Tunze particularly for size, cost of operation are very well designed, engineered, built... ETSS are more garage/chop shop put
together>
Is their 'plankton' spin
true, or just marketing?
<For Tunze more true>
- The ETSS website claims that skimmer throughput (gals of water/hr) is a
very good measure of a skimmer's ability. Is this a good measure to compare
different brands of skimmers?
<No, ridiculous... what does flow rate have to do with removal of unwanted materials. Removal per kilowatt energy consumed, per pass... these are measures of efficiency. Look at the Euroreef line for a paragon of excellence... their link can be found on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Thanks!
Just lost a Derasa and a Maxima
Hi Bob,
<Yikes, what happened?>
I feel so sad that I just lost two / all of my clams, one Derasa and one Maxima. I have had them for 9 months and a year respectively .. both died within a week apart. I first notice something is wrong when they wouldn't open that much, tried to adjust lighting, but the
shrinking continued and then both were in some sort of "gaping" position until I removed them. I noticed they both seem to have lost their legs and that it looked very hollow
bottom up.
<Hmm>
I am a little puzzled and very concerned with the clam losses. If you remember, I am in the middle of battling
Cyano and looking up my log, I setup a refugium with macro algae and took out the HOT with AC and phosphate sponge 2 weeks ago. Other than that, everything else have remained the same. Do you think they died from
poisoning from the macroalgae (there has been no dying though)?
<Doubtful>
Or is there some sort of a "predator"?
<If they were "hollow" inside it may be so... Pyramidellid snails, some polychaete worms can eat
Tridacnid clams quickly in numbers>
I added the Kent buffer to boast alkalinity over the last 2 weeks, from 6.8 to 11.2 then 12.5 over 2 weeks.
<Mmm>
My parameters are: 60G reef, Ph 8.0, NO3 2.5, PO4 <0.03, Alk 12, Ca 400, temp 80-82F, 45lbs
LR, 1-2inch sand. Livestock: flame angel, yellow tang, damsel, goby, bubble corral,
frogspawn, flowerpot, mushrooms, sun corals (all arranged at a distance from one another), cleaner shrimp,
Astrea and hermits.
Thanks.
Brian
<There was nothing left of the clams? Very strange, as in disturbing. Bob
Fenner>
Clam Questions!
Hi Bob,
How are you these days!
<Fine>
I have these weird encounters between my 4.5 inches
clam that I bought last week who is moving and getting rid of the poor
thing. Anyway! two days after I got the clam he was happy, in fact still
is under the metal halide about 9-10 inches below the 175watt MH, lying
between 3 rocks. The strange thing I saw was the snail (which I believe a
somewhat related or maybe it is a turbo grazer type) (this snail also runs
across the algae and suck on them clean), was attached to the clam. I
decided to pick the snail and pull him off the side of the clam, man! I had
to pull him really hard, which I thought what a good suction!
<Yes... good designs...>
Today! I went
home and saw the snail attached again, I pulled him off and it's even harder
to pull this time, but the strange thing I noticed was the hard shell part
of the clam had hole as if someone tried to drill a perfect hole.
<Perhaps "they" did>
I know
the darn thing is really hard, and can't imagine the snail would do this
kind of thing! I'm afraid that the clam might die from this situation,
because a year ago, I used to have 5 of those regular looking (round shape)
turbo grazer snail, until I bought this strange looking one which he did the
same thing attached to these snails, and died few days later. As a result I
have tons of small snails (baby ones). I have 2 theory, 1 good and one bad.
Lets start with the good one first, which is he thinks his trying to mate
with his own kind!
<Nah>
2 his feeding on the clam, but how can that be if the
snail feeds on the algae AKA vegetarians type.
<Things are not always as they seem... this animal may have a wider food preference than you assume>
The mysterious part is how
the heck did he put the hole through the hard shell of the clam?
<A radula, odontophore... specialized structures like a rasping tongue and muscular apparatus for such boring... and secretions to aid in melting the non-living matrix of the shell... There are several groups of invertebrates with species that do this...>
I thought I would go directly to the expert, thank you in advance, hope you
have a good one.
RL
<You as well my friend. I would surely remove this snail. Bob Fenner>
Clams
Hello Bob,
I have Derasa, Maxima and Ultra Crocea clams, and they seem to be growing and doing fine. Although I notice there not at all as bright and detailed in color as they were the first few months I owned them. Now the colors aren't that brilliant and they look blurred vs. detailed. What could be the cause of this? I have these clams in a 30g reef with two 36in VHO (one blue, one white) that run nine hours a day, and I replace them every 8 months. Iodine 0.04, Calcium 425, alkalinity 3.5 phosphates low and can never get PH above 7.9, (even using buffers daily PH will rise to the 8's, but fall within 15-20min back to 7.9, 7.8). Any information you can give me is greatly appreciated.
Thank you, Rob
Rob cook
<Hmm, could be a few things contributing to your tridacnids lack of apparent color/vigor... Most all to do with the small size/inherent instability of your system... Congratulations are due you for your success with a thirty... as you have found out, it's hard to keep stable and optimized... If it were my clam tank, I would do a few things... For one, I'd increase your lighting... you could easily stand to double the intensity you list... best by adding, switching to compact fluorescents... And I
encourage you to add a sump/refugium with live rock, macroalgae and its own lighting, leaving it on continuously or alternating the cycle with your main tank...this will do several things for you and your clams... increasing pH, making water chemistry more stable/optimized... provide more food for their filter feeding...
Otherwise, I might well add a vitamin, nutriment solution like Micro-Vit or Selcon to the system... and some small fishes to add their bit as well in the way of "processed nutrients".
Bob Fenner>
Critters on Tridacnid clams...
Bob,
I have a question that I was unable to find in your book.
Or any books I my library for that matter.
After a recent outbreak of what I think was velvet, I
removed all of the fish from my pseudo reef display tank,
and put them in quarantine with some medication. The fish
seem fine, but have one week of the recommended four left to
let the velvet die in the main tank.
<A month at the minimum... two if all can stand it... and hope you have availed yourself of raising temperature and lowering spg... mid eighties and 1.018 or so respectively... to reduce virulence, speed the demise of the
parasite(s)>
I'm still in search of
the source of the infection since we have not added a fish
to the tank in 3 months, and yes we dip and quarantine all
new members of the community!
<Maybe the food? Contamination brought in from another system via a net, specimen container...?>
The issue is the display tank. It is being over run by
critters. Some are nearly shell less snails. "Limpets" or
something like that. Others are small fast moving guys that
skim across the sand and rocks. I assume they are Mysis
shrimp or something like them. I have been "feeding" the two
cleaner shrimp and soft corals to keep the biofilter
running.
<Don't sweat these... very likely innocuous, maybe helpful, and likely transient... especially with the reintroduction of fish livestock>
None of the critter sightings bothered us much, we figured
they had been there for a while and the fish had been
feeding on them, particularly the six-line wrasse, P. springeri, P. fridmani, and neon gobies. We just figured
the fish would have a feast when they returned to the tank.
<Yep>
Today, however, we found one of our clams closed up, when I
picked it up, about 50 of the shrimp like critters scampered
away, and several of the limpets were on the shell. This
leads to a chicken and egg question. Is the clam sick and
the critters were attracted to the dying clam, or are the
critters killing the clam?
<Hmm, too much likelihood of the latter to suit me... may be time to expedite the return of your fishes... at least the six-line wrasse.>
We have two other clams in the
tank, and while they seem to be irritated on occasion, they
are open. The rest of the corals & polyps seem fine. I'm
sure the fish will have a field day when they return next
week, but I wonder if we should do something for the clam?
Also, how do coral only tanks survive with all these
critters? Are they a problem? Should we be concerned, or
just marvel at the diversity of life in the sea?
<By exclusion, through lucky mixes of other factors... I wouldn't marvel... I'd replace the wrasse.>
On a lighter note, I love our tank so much, that I went and
got scuba certified. We are thinking of going to Cozumel.
Any suggestions?
>>
<A great place for new scuba experiences... fabulous clarity (regularly 100-200 feet) and the easiest drifting dive wall diving on the planet... lots of good operators there... Only real suggestion is to GO!
Bob Fenner, just back from the Cook Islands and out to Mexico himself next week>
Baby maxima clams
Hi Bob,
I've been reading in the web searching for answers, and many times I end up
reading you. I'm so happy I found this web site....
<And we're very happy it is being found... and useful>
I had a baby maxima clam about 1". It died 4 days after arrived. It was
doing well and I could find no parasites. The only thing I can think of is
it had a very frayed foot and 2 days after arrival it lost it. I thought it
was going to regrew it. Anyway, I constantly kept turning it up in the
morning and afternoon, It was getting on its side every time, but I assure you
it did not spent 1 hr. that way during the light hours at least. I have a
120 gal tank, with 120 lbs of LR, 60# of sugar sized aragonite, 5 small
peaceful fish: 1 " in average gobies and one 2" Cirrhilabrus. I use
Wet/Dry and big skimmer in a sump, and my main pump is 1200 GPH.
Ammonia/Nitrites/Nitrates: 0, PH:8.2, Alk:5meql, temp: 81, and 300 ppm of
calcium (I drip Kalkwasser at night 1 drop every 5-8 seconds). My lightingis 2 175W MH 5500K, and 2 Actinic FL ( I'm not if sure they are VHO). My
tank is a 120 but is only 4 foot long: 2'W,2'H, 4'Long. So it is wide, not
too deep, and the lights are more concentrated over the area. I want to keep
Clams in the sand bottom. My questions are: What do you think happened to my
clam, and Will I be able to keep clams in the sand bottom?
Thanks a lot,
Norberto.
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<Hmm hard to say with any degree of certainty what went wrong with this one specimen... but I suspect it was something(s) that occurred in advance of your receiving this animal that led to its demise... That is, cumulative insults from handling, poor water quality... led to its subsequent death. Reading through what you've listed as gear, water quality, I see nothing overtly wrong (Your lighting, calcium and alkalinity could be "higher", but they alone would not account for the loss), and would be inclined to try another specimen.
Bob Fenner>
Re: Baby maxima clams
I thought the Alkalinity was on the high side: 5 meq/L?... and the PH on the
low side 8.2... I've been battling out to push the PH up... with no
success... I've tried buffers, and Baking powder. The Buffer (Kent Marine)
just dropped my Calcium, and the backing soda helped too little. I got the PH
in 8.2 and don't want to risk months of dosing Kalkwasser on anotheraddition... Maybe my kits are bad. They are SeaChem... look pretty good to
me, but they are the only thing I've tried so far... >>
<Not necessarily on the first two measures... 3 meq/l is what many folks consider reasonable for captive systems... but... I would cut back on the baking soda (not powder I hope/trust, unless you're cooking:))... doubt if you're kits are bad, but not too much trouble to test the testers... look into the Salifert, Hach products.
Bob Fenner>
Re: Baby maxima clams
Yes about 1 drop every 6 seconds from around 10 PM until 8 AM. (10 Hours) I
have a 2 Gal doser that empties every 2 weeks... My Calcium is around 300
ppm. Do you think I should keep dosing that way, cut back (and how much
should I cut back?), or dose more?... >>
<Hmm, have you considered another form of calcium... like Calcium chloride? Maybe take a read through Bob Goemans last few months of TFH articles where he gives about the best recent rendition of how else to boost biomineral content and preserve alkalinity.
Bob Fenner>
Re: Baby maxima clams
What's TFH?... Where can I find those articles?...
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Tropical Fish Hobbyist magazine... Out of Neptune City, NJ. Maybe a store carries them or a library... where are you on the planet?
Bob Fenner
Re: Baby maxima clams
I'm in Atlanta GA, how about you? don't tell me you are in some nice beach
please...
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<Hey, Atlanta's a nice town (though growing too fast, big for me...) am in San Diego (but out to the Cook Islands next week, don't scream), but a large library near you (like a college) will likely have TFH in their stacks...call, look around... and maybe subscribe.
Bob Fenner>
Pyramidellid snail concerns
I received my first clam last Friday (3" Samoan Blue Rim Derasa
Clam). I have 4 96 watt PC's 2blue 2dl over a 150gal. reef w/250lbs. lv. &
a Berlin Classic everything else is fine. You had stated Pyramidellidsnails can kill clams. Are these those 1/2 shelled night critters? What dothey look like? Are there any other articles on keeping clams out there? I
want to keep some clams but refuse to have another perish in six days
before finding out just cause for this failed attempt.
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Pyramidellid snails are generally tan to whitish (to match the internal mantle color of their hosts) of much smaller size (1/4 inch are large), and come out, though hard to see, during light and dark hours (typically only found in/on the giant clam itself, not outside).
They're shaped something like little pyramids, with a high mid-shell area, but you have to look really close to make this out.
In a system such as yours I'd like to suggest placing the new clam(s) low/deeper in the tank the first few days, but ultimately (within a week), moving it/them up to shallower, brighter lit environs to sustain their symbiotic algae. These species need intense lighting.
Much has been written about the giant clams of the family Tridacnidae, and their captive husbandry. Try using your computer's search engines for both terms, and also looking through the "marine aquarium clubs" (as a search term) as well. Many people have links to the information on care of these animals.
Bob Fenner
Maxima clam "freshwater dip"
I recently purchased a maxima clam. It had two things attached to it. One had a shell like the clam it was attached to, it attached to the clam with fibers that ripped when I pulled it off. The other was sponge like. I didn't know if these were parasites but I didn't want to take any chances.
My question is, I know that parasites can kill clams, can I do your recommended freshwater dip for my clam to rid it of any parasites that I might not find?
Thanks,
Jared
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Hmm, probably a good idea to do as you did with the likely innocuous "hitchhikers"... and no to the freshwater dips for
tridacnids... as a means of controlling parasites... but yes to the use of animals like Pseudocheilinus wrasses for eradicating many Clam enemies... like
Pyramidellid snails.
Bob Fenner
Clam sick
I have a derasa clam that is about 8 months old and had grown about 3/4 inch
with good mantle extension. Two days ago I performed a routine 15% water
change and removed some old accumulated brown algae from the back of the 75
g tank (physically removed most, but much was simply scrubbed off into the
tank). I use the Aquarium Pharmaceutical, Inc. resin filter. Since that
maintenance, my clam has looked 'sick' -poor mantle extension on 1/2 his
body and he/she is not fully opened. No bleaching is present. Although I
have occasionally had problems with brown algae, my overall water
parameters have been good (including Ca). Other livestock looks fine, but I
did lose a flame angel to ich 1 month ago. Something happened with that
maintenance period but I am not sure; could removing the accumulated brown
algae release toxins into the water. Is there anything I can do, or is
demise certain?
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Yes to the release of toxins from the Brown algae removal... not likely to the clams certain demise. Do consider increasing your lighting to change the brown types of algae over to more light-favoring greens... either by adding more watts, increasing light period or both.
Bob Fenner
Tridacna clams
I have a 125g reef that has been going for one year. The six fish all
seem healthy along with an extremely large and happy bubble coral I've
had for four years. I have numerous other corals that are in good shape
also. I have two 175w halide lights. In the last four weeks all three of
my Tridacna sp. have died. They looked good for a few months then
started to gape. My nitrates are high (greater than 10ppm nitrate
nitrogen). Is this the problem?
Thanks, George
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Wow, and sorry to hear of your clam losses... I doubt if the nitrates had much
to do with their demise. Some folks who culture them have much, much more
nitrate in their water... some on purpose/by design.
So what does account for their deaths? Not much clues in this email... the
Plerogyra (Bubble Coral) is doing fine... enough light...
Are you "supplementing" your system chemically? This is the usual, or
most common cause of Tridacnid loss... Any chance a predator is involved? Did
you note any "chew" marks on the clams mantles or other soft body
parts? Do you know what Pyramidellid snails look like? How long were the clams
"gaping" before perishing? Did they go all at once? Which died first,
largest, smallest, species...
Bob Fenner
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